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#20562 - 02/28/01 06:25 PM Re: strange phrases and usages
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How about "got gawown"...as in "got gone". The first time I heard it was from a little mountain girl I was talking to while her Mother seined minnows from a creek for the bait we needed. They were both barefooted. I thought the mother of the little puppies (who was absent) has gotten a disease I had never heard of...of course it meant she wasn't there any more. I had only lived in the area for 2 months...found out it not uncommon in my little city either!


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#20563 - 03/02/01 02:45 AM Re: strange phrases and usages
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One of the family myths was about the housewife who complained the grocery delivery boy had 'been and gone and not come.'


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#20564 - 03/02/01 08:27 AM chicken
of troy Offline
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...have its head cut off, however. I just don't think I could handle the trauma.

and Could turn you into a vegetarian!

I was fancinated by the live poultry market as a child-- is was set up as small factory-- you chose a chicken, the chickens feet were put into a vice, the butcher cut off the chickens head, and immediately hung it by the vise on its feet-- and from then on, it was automated-- there was a machine with rubber "fingers" that plucked the chicken...

I always wanted my mother to buy a fresh chicken.. (but my dad was a butcher and he bought all the meat for the household)...

I was never around chickens enough when they were alive to develop any feeling for them. The process was mechanical, and the death was swift-- I liked seeing how live chickens turned into food.-- growing up in the city, i was disconnect from how most food was produced.

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#20565 - 03/06/01 03:47 PM Re: strange phrases and usages
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Registered: 02/24/01
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Loc: Hartsville, New York.
I just thought that having sin in sincere seems strange.
jimthedog
P.S. If you don't recognize it, it's from the musical The Music Man.


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#20566 - 03/06/01 04:05 PM Re: strange phrases and usages
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In the first year of Latin I learned that sincere meant "without wax" referring to an ancient Roman custom of cheating by filling defects in marble with wax to hide them.
So the only sin in sincere is working some scam while pretending to be honest.


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#20567 - 03/06/01 05:00 PM Re: strange phrases and usages
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I should have guessed it was from Latin. I wish that they still taught Latin. Probably everyone else would hate it though.
jimthedog


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#20568 - 03/06/01 05:05 PM Re: strange phrases and usages
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Latin is a dead language, as dead as it can be.
First it killed the Romans, and now it's killing me.


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#20569 - 03/06/01 05:59 PM Re: strange phrases and usages
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looks like I coined jimthedoggerel too soon. oh well, how about wwhatcrambo?!


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#20570 - 03/07/01 05:54 AM Re: strange phrases and usages
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Yes, it does seem like everyone else hated Latin. Anyway, what about "a shot in the arm"? I always thought of that like getting punched , or maybe poisoned, but a commercial on the radio uses it as if you're getting medicine.
jimthedog


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#20571 - 03/07/01 11:16 AM Re: strange phrases and usages
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I thought sincere was from a later date-- and refered to alchemy--

where a small ball of gold was covered with some wax, and then rolled in lead dust. and the "alchemist" could make the lead go through "sublimations" of fire (with some magic words) and turn the lead into gold... (gee, i wonder how they did that?)

some alchemist were also con artist--and would "sell the secrets of turning lead into gold" and skip town before some on realized that in couldn't been done sincerely!

even if it dates from the ancient romans, it got a boost from alchemists!

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