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HalAl #204309 01/23/12 09:02 AM
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Sounds like murder...Hal. Glad to have you back and I hope you continue to improve.

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Good to see that you have recovered enough to get back in here, Hal. Living with any sort of disability isn't easy, as I know from experience, but you do right to get on with life as fully as you possibly can. More power to your elbow (or any other part of your anatomy that needsit!)
Hope to see you here a lot.


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Thanks, all. Isn't there another word for "prince" in French? It seems it was, like "dauphin," animal related, but I can't remember.

I recently learned, via a biography of St-Ex, that he flew a Caudron "Simoun," (sandstorm) into a sand dune, creating his own sandstorm. A bit of irony! But that was the setting for his wonderful story. Makes me think sometimes calamity can lead to another kind of success.

HalAl #204329 01/24/12 02:23 AM
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sometimes calamity can lead to another kind of success. Indeed it can. (She said, having been an instigator of many calamities.) Wouldn't it be nice if we could recognize that at the time they hit?

The ARTFL project says the French word for prince is prince.
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The Dauphin was a particular prince, the son of the King of France. It's kinda like saying the English word for prince is The Prince of Wales.

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... and the English didn't use the word 'prince' until after William of Normandy invaded us in 1066, I believe. It isn't a title in the old Saxon or Scandinavian cultures.


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... and, prince does not always mean the 'son of a king'. On the Continent, there are princes in their own right: e.g., Monaco, Lichtenstein. German (and other Germanic languages have cognates) has Fürst. German also has Prinz. The former word is cognate with English first; in Latin princeps means literally 'first head'.

Old English had ęšeling for the 'son of a king'.


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And dauphin is the French word for dolphin.

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And dauphin is the French word for dolphin.

So noted in my post above, when I stated, "...animal-related..."
I have not found what word I was looking for - and I may well be wrong. Also, the French Crown Prince's coat of arms had dolphins on it!

It would appear that the word had earlier generalized in Italy, hence Machiavelli's use of it in "Il Principe," suggesting any ruler.

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The First ( not among his equals) smile probably a connection with Fürst??

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