Wordsmith.org: the magic of words

Wordsmith Talk

About Us | What's New | Search | Site Map | Contact Us  

Topic Options
#199890 - 05/17/11 06:34 AM An Affair of the Heart
Tromboniator Offline
old hand

Registered: 05/10/10
Posts: 854
Loc: Alaska
I've posted this on another forum, but you people are more like family, so I'd like to ask you:

I have noticed in, say, the last two or three years, that in news broadcasts, web interviews, and the like, concerning disasters, wars, and other violence, the results are always "heartwrenching," never "heartrending" anymore. A search of OneLook shows that "heartwrenching" essentially doesn't exist in dictionaries, "heartrending" is universal. A Google search shows 1,750,000 hits for "heartwrenching," 423,000 for "heartrending." Google Ngrams shows "heartwrenching" showing up in books about 1980 (there might be a tiny bump in the late 1930s, or that could be a rendering glitch), with "heartrending" in the lead, and both words increasing. This (Ngram) is American English "heartwrenching" is apparently very rare in British books.
Has anyone else noticed this trend, if trend it is, and is "heartrending" in possible jeopardy?

Peter

PS: I've been told that "heartrendering" also has a 101,000-hit Google presence.

Top
#199896 - 05/17/11 10:54 AM Re: An Affair of the Heart [Re: Tromboniator]
tsuwm Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 04/03/00
Posts: 10525
Loc: this too shall pass
there must be fifty ways to break one's heart; e.g., heart-piercing, heart-wringing, heart-wrenching, heart-rending - heart-rending is sometimes malapropistically rendered as heart-rendering. "The true ground of action is the outrage and deprivation; the injury the father sustains in the loss of his child; the heart-rendering agony he must suffer in the destruction of his dearest hopes."

in any event, I don't think there's a "preferred" form, discounting the lattermost.

Top
#199906 - 05/17/11 05:06 PM Re: An Affair of the Heart [Re: tsuwm]
Tromboniator Offline
old hand

Registered: 05/10/10
Posts: 854
Loc: Alaska
I don't recall bumping into heart-wringing, and I guess I would interpret heart-piercing as by Cupid's arrow; that is, falling in love, not falling into anguish. In any case, I don't hear any of the variants: heartwrenching seems to be the mot-du-jour.

Top
#199909 - 05/17/11 07:17 PM Re: An Affair of the Heart [Re: Tromboniator]
LukeJavan8 Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/23/08
Posts: 6786
Loc: Land of the Flat Water
The 'mot-du-jour' - I like that.
_________________________
----please, draw me a sheep----

Top
#199911 - 05/17/11 07:36 PM Re: An Affair of the Heart [Re: Tromboniator]
tsuwm Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 04/03/00
Posts: 10525
Loc: this too shall pass
Originally Posted By: Tromboniator
I don't recall bumping into heart-wringing, and I guess I would interpret heart-piercing as by Cupid's arrow; that is, falling in love, not falling into anguish. In any case, I don't hear any of the variants: heartwrenching seems to be the mot-du-jour.


1718 Pope tr. Homer Iliad IV. xiv. 569 Heart-piercing Anguish struck the Grecian Host. {heh}

1872 W. Black Strange Adventures Phaeton xxiii. 327 What bitterness and grievous heart-wringing. {shrug}

Top
#199912 - 05/17/11 08:02 PM Re: An Affair of the Heart [Re: tsuwm]
Tromboniator Offline
old hand

Registered: 05/10/10
Posts: 854
Loc: Alaska
Well, it's been a while.

Top
#199915 - 05/17/11 10:41 PM Re: fifty ways to break one's heart [Re: tsuwm]
Jackie Online   content

Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 11610
Loc: Louisville, Kentucky
You just stab it in the back, Jack
Toss it in the can, Stan
You don't need to be coy, Roy
Just get yourself free
Throw it under the bus, Gus
You don't need to discuss much
Just break off the key, Lee
And get yourself free

(with apologies to Paul Simon)

Top
#199917 - 05/18/11 12:23 AM Re: fifty ways to break one's heart [Re: Jackie]
tsuwm Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 04/03/00
Posts: 10525
Loc: this too shall pass
< g >

Top
#199919 - 05/18/11 07:30 AM Re: An Affair of the Heart [Re: Tromboniator]
BranShea Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 5284
Loc: Netherlands, the Hague
"They called to one another with piercing, blood-curdling cries. ..... " (Tolkien)

Could this be love???? Oh no no, I associate heart-piercing with above type of cries.

Top

Moderator:  Jackie 
Forum Stats
8769 Members
16 Forums
13814 Topics
216154 Posts

Max Online: 3341 @ 12/09/11 02:15 PM
Newest Members
Rupak, DeathCake, malagachica, Jamie, pr3sedentedonut
8769 Registered Users
Who's Online
1 registered (Jackie), 34 Guests and 5 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters (30 Days)
LukeJavan8 106
endymion6 105
wofahulicodoc 98
AlimaeHP 14
Tromboniator 11
BranShea 2
tsuwm 2
Storymom 1
sleeper54 1
wsieber 1
Top Posters
wwh 13858
Faldage 13803
Jackie 11610
tsuwm 10525
Buffalo Shrdlu 7210
LukeJavan8 6786
AnnaStrophic 6511
Wordwind 6296
of troy 5400
BranShea 5284

Disclaimer: Wordsmith.org is not responsible for views expressed on this site. Use of this forum is at your own risk and liability - you agree to hold Wordsmith.org and its associates harmless as a condition of using it.

Home | Today's Word | Yesterday's Word | Subscribe | FAQ | Archives | Search | Feedback
Wordsmith Talk | Wordsmith Chat

© 2014 Wordsmith