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#196089 - 01/13/11 08:33 AM car -> automobile
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car
c.1300, "wheeled vehicle," from O.N.Fr. carre, from L. carrum, carrus (pl. carra), originally "two-wheeled Celtic war chariot," from Gaulish karros (cf. Welsh carr "cart, wagon," Breton karr "chariot"), from PIE *krsos, from base *kers- "to run." Extension to "automobile" is 1896. Car bomb first 1972, in reference to Northern Ireland.

Found this and wondered if you knew of any other things that started out as the short version (in this case as car) and was later made longer or latin/greek-ified (in this case car -> automobile) I just thought it was interesting that the common usage came before the 'posh' usage...

p.s. I really like the bold bit...makes me proud to be from the land of the Celts!


Edited by bexter (01/13/11 08:34 AM)
Edit Reason: p.s.
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#196117 - 01/13/11 11:27 AM Re: car -> automobile [Re: bexter]
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Ah....with your ancient warrior queen whose name I forget
but starts with "b". Car-ry on
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#196127 - 01/13/11 11:48 AM Re: car -> automobile [Re: LukeJavan8]
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Ha! Boudiccea or Boudicca or Boudica or Boudicea...depending on what the academics thought in any given year...she had red hair you know...but unfortunately most two wheeled chariots were used like buses on the battlefield...they carried people on and off and didn't tend to have the massive rotating blades that chop people in half that you see in the films...although the leaders did have them so that they were elevated and could see the battle progressing...they would dismount to enter the fight though...
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#196128 - 01/13/11 11:50 AM Re: car -> automobile [Re: bexter]
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That's the lady. Bless her. I love a good chariot battle, or
race, as in "Ben-Hur". Boudica(?) love the stories about her.
I think there was a movie or two within the last few years too
wasn't there? Or am I imagining something else.
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#196134 - 01/13/11 12:03 PM Re: car -> automobile [Re: LukeJavan8]
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I think there was...there was definitely a film filled with woadies...in Ben-Hur's race one of the charioteers is wearing a watch...makes me laugh everytime I see it...a favourite moment in Gladiator is when the slaves defeat the chariots in the Colosseum...
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#196138 - 01/13/11 12:32 PM Re: car -> automobile [Re: bexter]
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today's diegogarcity:
But from antiquity to modern times, there are many stories of female warriors, of Amazons. The best known find their way into the history books as warrior queens, rulers as well as leaders. They have been forced to act as any Churchill, Stalin, or Roosevelt: Semiramis from Nineveh, who shaped the Assyrian Empire, and Boudicca, who led one of the bloodiest English revolts against the Roman forces of occupation, to cite just two. Boudicca is honoured with a statue on the Thames at Westminster Bridge, right opposite Big Ben. Be sure to say hello to her if you happen to pass by.
from Larsson's Hornet's Nest, which I just opened this A.M.

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#196139 - 01/13/11 12:36 PM Re: car -> automobile [Re: tsuwm]
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Her daughters are there as well...the reason for her rebellion...
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#196199 - 01/14/11 09:28 PM Re: car -> automobile [Re: tsuwm]
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Larsson's Hornet's Nest Hey! I've read that! smile

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