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It is not just an intro to LOTR but a good story all in its own right...the only "intro" bit I can think of is introducing some of the characters and showing how Bilbo got the ring...it is well worth another read Luke...Mirkwood is especially good with all those giant spiders (yes that is where Rowling stole them from)


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I know she stole lots of things. But all good stories
seem to "borrow" lots. I know it is a good read in its
own, that was just what I was told. Am rereading it soon.


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But all good stories seem to "borrow" lots.

Yes, Tolkien borrowed lots, too.


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Yes but he was very inventive as well he amalgamated the two...he also created his land and language first, then wrote the stories...he is also credited with the "epic fantasy" style...Rowling on the other hand stole practically EVERYTHING from one fantasy novel or another...(Paolini stole his map from The Belgariad and Mallorean (the left hand bit) and the rest is Middle Earth with different trees but he was only 17 so he has a slight excuse (he even stole Belgarion's blue flaming sword)) Rowling had few original ideas...if any


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Yes but he was very inventive as well he amalgamated the two...he also created his land and language first, then wrote the stories.

It was not a slam against Tolkien. (I enjoyed his novels as well linguistic/philological materials


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Enjoyed the Belgariad and Mallorean, and whatever the
third one of that series is called.

Tolkien's discussions with Lewis probably brought many
ideas to light.


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Yes although in later years they fell out quite a bit...I really like Eddings' series but I do have a major issue with Rowling (as you probably guessed!) The clever use of language in those books are interesting especially when rereading them...as with TABA and LOTR...what does annoy me is people who talk about LOTR as being individual books not just as three parts with further divisions and then further chapters within each division...but I have practically no issues with LOTR. It is one of my favourite books...if I ever get round to applying for Mastermind it will be one of my specialist subjects smile


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when I first read LOTR in the 8th grade (age 14), it changed the way I viewed the world. for several years following that I read them every year, and then at least once every other year. I expect I have read them 40 times. the only other books that have affected me in a similar way are Foundation by Isaac Asimov and perhaps Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card.

oh, and it was my sister that turned me on to LOTR: she bought me The Hobbit after I raved about how much I loved Watership Down. (probably another book that changed my life.)

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I can remember taking LOTR into class when I was six and my teacher said that I couldn't possibly be reading it. When I replied that I was indeed partway through reading it, she demanded that I read a bit aloud to the class as punishment for lying...about 30 seconds after I started reading fluidly (I can even remember which bit - the part about the attack on Weathertop where Frodo gets stabbed) she told me to be quiet and sit down at my desk, wrote a letter to my father about it who found it very funny.


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Don't ever let school get in the way of your education.

I have to concur, the first reading of LOTR changed my
world view. I wished I lived in ME for a very long time
especially in high school. I lived a long way from school
and had little inter-relations with classmates, so the
characters became more real. For one thing on a very
positive level, LOTR convinced me of a love of reading.


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