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TABA is The Hobbit...my father used to call it TABA because the title of The Hobbit is actually: The Hobbit, or There and Back Again hence the TABA...I assume he found it funny to hear a five year old calling to read 'TABA' as a bedtime story...we used to take turns reading...one night I would read a bit to him for my bedtime story, then my father would read a bit to me as my bedtime story...


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Yes, the Hobbit, as the Hobbit movie is not yet ready and even though the motion pictures are entertaining the whole tale is far more enchanting when you read it.

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Speaking of Arwyn, it was Arwen who was Aragorn's enamorata. Arwyn is a Welsh name and the Y is properly pronounced like the I in it. There may well be some non-Welsh speakers who pronounce it like a long I but that's no more the "correct" pronunciation than is "Kate Linn" the "correct" pronunciation of the Irish Caitlin, (cat leen).

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It took me a while to understand Bex's use of TABA.
Then he told me: it is the HOBBIT; THERE AND BACK AGAIN.

Yes, Avy, start with the Hobbit, especially before the two
movies come out, and then LOTR. I hope you love it as much
as we do.


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Originally Posted By: Faldage
Speaking of Arwyn, it was Arwen who was Aragorn's enamorata. Arwyn is a Welsh name and the Y is properly pronounced like the I in it. There may well be some non-Welsh speakers who pronounce it like a long I but that's no more the "correct" pronunciation than is "Kate Linn" the "correct" pronunciation of the Irish Caitlin, (cat leen).


Thanks for that bit of history, I was actually wondering which syllable is stressed in Arwyn, because pronunciation seems to depend of stress, if Ar-is to be long vowel [aar], then -wyn has to be unstressed, hence y->[i].

But as for myn and myne, we have only one syllable, so no stress factor. I propose to find other examples of short words with _y_ structure so we can see if y is ever pronounced [ai] smile

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Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8

Yes, Avy, start with the Hobbit, especially before the two
movies come out, and then LOTR. I hope you love it as much
as we do.

I will fish this thread back up again when I am done and report on how I liked it. Thanks y'all.

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Originally Posted By: elifit


Thanks for that bit of history, I was actually wondering which syllable is stressed in Arwyn, because pronunciation seems to depend of stress, if Ar-is to be long vowel [aar], then -wyn has to be unstressed, hence y->[i].


I don't know about the stress structure in Welsh, but the W is a full-on vowel. Arwyn is pronounced something like Ahr-oo-in.

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Originally Posted By: Faldage
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I don't know about the stress structure in Welsh, but the W is a full-on vowel. Arwyn is pronounced something like Ahr-oo-in.


You mean W in English? It's a semi vowel so yes it can act as vowel in certain conditions. Do you mean that Ar-w-yn has 3 syllables? and you pronounce w as [u]?? Makes sense, shall we take Ailyn then?
Ai-lyn has two syllables. First syllable accented, hence long diphthong [ei] and shwa or short [i] in the second, right?
Anyway, I meant that unstressed syllables act as shwas or short vowels, so it's best to come up with short words with the _y_ structure. wink

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Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8

Yes, Avy, start with the Hobbit, especially before the two
movies come out, and then LOTR. I hope you love it as much
as we do.

I will fish this thread back up again when I am done and report on how I liked it. Thanks y'all.


I look forward to your report. It is so nice to share
things that are enjoyable.


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Originally Posted By: Faldage


I don't know about the stress structure in Welsh, but the W is a full-on vowel. Arwyn is pronounced something like Ahr-oo-in.


You mean W in English? It's a semi vowel so yes it can act as vowel in certain conditions. Do you mean that Ar-w-yn has 3 syllables? and you pronounce w as [u]??


No, the W in the Welsh language. In English I would pronounce Arwyn with two syllables, Ahr-win, but if I were attempting to pronounce it in Welsh I'd give it three syllables, Ahr-oo-in.

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