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#195644 01/07/11 02:30 PM
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I had a wee bitty argument with a friend today over the use of Y in words such as my, mine etc. I said that MYN was a perfectly reasonable substitute for MINE but unfortunately I was disbelieved, even though I pointed out that MY has a Y not an I. I wondered if any of you wished to preside as referee and declare one of us the winner of this...err...little...discussion


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I do not know the right or wrong of using y instead of i. I used it in my username only becauses 'y' matches 'v' and 'A' in pattern - one upward'^' and two downward 'v'. (I know - I am working on getting a life.) Karat, I think, that sign is called.
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I said that MYN was a perfectly reasonable substitute for MINE but unfortunately I was disbelieved, even though I pointed out that MY has a Y not an I.

Well, there is no rhyme or reason to English orthography, and you are "free" to spell words any old way you want. Whether that "freedom" is backed by some right, who knows? That being said, folks will judge you by how well you follow the standard orthography, just as they will judge you (rightly or wrongly) by a host of other arbitrary conventions and accidents of nature. I suggest one of you adopt the Middle Welsh dotted y: .

English during its history has gone through relative periods of orthographic stability and chaos. Shakespeare's time is a good example. Take a look at a page from one of his plays in its various editions (link).


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myn also stops the confusion between mine, mine and mine but definitely means mine albeit spelt more fun

myn MYN MYN


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myn also stops the confusion between mine, mine and mine but definitely means mine albeit spelt more fun

I think words should be spelled phonemically. Differences in spoken regional dialects could be handled by specifying a national standard dialect and spelling as that dialect is pronounced. The spelling of homonyms differently is just too confusing. Spell them all the same. If there is any chance of ambiguity (not resolvable by context) the pronunciation or word itself will change over time.


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But where is the fun in deciphering the meanings in that?! It would be hard to implement but would probably make it easier for people to spell


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I would probably (seeing it in print) pronounce myn like min. not sure why.


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But where is the fun in deciphering the meanings in that?! It would be hard to implement but would probably make it easier for people to spell

It would be a lot of fun to have a phonemic system of spelling. It would get children reading and writing sooner. As I said above, there are very few situations where homonyms lead to ambiguity because of the way language works. Nobody just utters a single homonym without some context. Context goes a long way towards resolving any possible ambiguity. That is unless one's interlocutor is bound to confuse you rather than accommodate communication. Like euphemisms and political correctness, the anger is already there in the speaker's/hearer's attitude, not something caused by utterances in the language of communication.


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It would be a lot of fun to have a phonemic system of spelling. Ah, but then you'd have people like me who would write grruhl because that's how I say it.

In one of the Beezus and Ramona books there is a line that goes something like this: Beezus always spelled everything correctly, but Ramona couldn't care less about whether she'd spelled something right, as long as people knew what she meant.

Thought that was apt for this thread.

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I think myne could work but not myn.
English spelling has some general rules and patterns but there are numerous exceptions and so is hard to teach spelling at school.

Why MYNE?

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