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#194832 - 12/10/10 08:26 PM Re: Pleonasm [Re: Faldage]
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Originally Posted By: Faldage
There's also, e.g., an ATM card, so ATM has taken on a meaning beyond its literal expansion.


correct...as has SCUBA.

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#194841 - 12/10/10 09:53 PM Re: Pleonasm [Re: tsuwm]
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this is where Faldo steps in and proclaims "redundantism is your friend", or somesuch.

Talk about a mantle of chopped liver invisibility. And what have I been on in this very same thread?
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#194847 - 12/11/10 04:45 AM Re: Pleonasm [Re: zmjezhd]
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My favourite pleonasm has to be a place calle Haughurst Hill.

A 'haugh', in Old English means 'hill' and 'hurst' means 'wood'.

Therefore 'Haughurst' means 'wooded hill' or ' wood on a hill'.
However, over time the residents have obviously forgotton this and renamed 'Haughurst' as 'Haughurst Hill' and thus it becomes 'wooded hill hill' or 'wood on a hill hill'.
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#194850 - 12/11/10 06:43 AM Re: Pleonasm [Re: bexter]
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Have you sent that in for this weeks competition Bex...with picture, its sure to be a winner grin

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#194953 - 12/14/10 06:29 AM Re: Pleonasm [Re: Candy]
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WOW...900 entries (and mine didn't even get a mention)

this was winner.....
AWAD mail

Mine in case you wondered was....


How people say baby then follow with the young of animal, ie baby cub (bear) baby foal (horse) or baby joey (kangaroo). Their name already describes them as being the young of the animal.

Kylie Kwong is a popular Australian television chef, author and restaurateur and her recipe for Braised Moroccan-style Lamb Shanks calls for the use of 'baby lamb shanks'.

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#194956 - 12/14/10 07:10 AM Re: Pleonasm [Re: Candy]
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baby cub (bear) baby foal (horse) or baby joey (kangaroo). Their name already describes them as being the young of the animal.

Yes, but a baby lamb is younger than a lamb, just like a baby is younger than a youth.
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#194960 - 12/14/10 07:44 AM Re: Pleonasm [Re: Candy]
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Originally Posted By: Candy
Have you sent that in for this weeks competition Bex...with picture, its sure to be a winner grin


No I didn't...I totally forgot about the competition! woops!
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#194964 - 12/14/10 09:49 AM Re: Pleonasm [Re: bexter]
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cross-threading alert
from a bexter link in the acronyms thread:

Some lexicographic wit coined a term for what’s ­happened to laser, radar, and their ilk: they’ve become ­anacronyms, a ­neologism that smooshes the sounds (and the meanings) of acronym and anachronism. The product of smooshing two words together, by the way, is a portmanteau.

When an acronym becomes an anacronym, funny things can happen to it. For one, people sometimes start saying the acronym coupled with the verbalization of one of its constituent elements. Hence in ”SCSI interface,” the word ”interface” is completely redundant, because that’s what the ”I” is for.

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#194988 - 12/14/10 01:31 PM Re: Pleonasm [Re: tsuwm]
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following up on myself, I see that anacronym actually has an OLI of seven(7).

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#194989 - 12/14/10 04:24 PM Re: Pleonasm [Re: tsuwm]
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When an acronym becomes an anacronym, funny things can happen to it.

They can suffer from RAS Syndrome

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