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#184007 - 03/30/09 11:42 AM Re: French place names [Re: PastorVon]
LukeJavan8 Offline
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I too did some checking and found Dubuque, IA is younger than
I thought. Sorry to be misleading. Julien Dubuque arrived in the
late 1700's and settled the area from a European perspective.
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#184016 - 03/30/09 07:54 PM Re: French place names [Re: LukeJavan8]
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Seems like there should be some cities in the southwest that would be older but I don't really know a good way to find out without a lot of guessing. I did check Los Angeles and, although the first Europeans were there in 1542 no settlement was started until 1769.

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#184129 - 04/05/09 01:42 PM Re: French place names [Re: Faldage]
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And Santa Fe, NM would be another, I'd guess. Most of the
"san" and "santa" towns of California, founded by Franciscan
missionaries are quite old, but it would take some searching
to find out: San Diego, San Juan Capistrano, e.g.
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#184138 - 04/05/09 07:46 PM Re: French place names [Re: LukeJavan8]
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Wikipedia seems to be fairly reliable in first settlement dates. the few I've checked out were areas first visited before 1600 but not permanently settled till much later. Santa Fe seems to have been formally founded in 1610.

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#184140 - 04/05/09 08:20 PM Re: French place names [Re: Faldage]
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Originally Posted By: Faldage
Seems like there should be some cities in the southwest that would be older but I don't really know a good way to find out without a lot of guessing. I did check Los Angeles and, although the first Europeans were there in 1542 no settlement was started until 1769.


According to a number of books I have read, Los Angeles began as a sailing "station" where cattle hides were cured so that they could be transported to other parts of the world to be made into leather products. A semi-permanent village grew up around the "industry" as workers brought to the station by the sailing vessels remained ashore to process the hides. A couple of Louis L'Amour novels also substantiate this info. Ha!

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#184150 - 04/06/09 01:38 AM Re: French place names [Re: PastorVon]
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Originally Posted By: PastorVon
A couple of Louis L'Amour novels also substantiate this info. Ha!


I in an interview he said that he did a lot of research to have facts right for his books: routes, water holes, settlements etc.

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#184157 - 04/06/09 07:33 AM Re: French place names [Re: PastorVon]
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Originally Posted By: PastorVon
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According to a number of books I have read, Los Angeles began as a sailing "station" where cattle hides were cured so that they could be transported to other parts of the world to be made into leather products. A semi-permanent village grew up around the "industry" as workers brought to the station by the sailing vessels remained ashore to process the hides. A couple of Louis L'Amour novels also substantiate this info. Ha!


Any dates? Cattle hides suggests a fairly late date.

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#184158 - 04/06/09 08:16 AM Re: French place names [Re: Faldage]
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Originally Posted By: Faldage
Any dates? Cattle hides suggests a fairly late date.


yeah, the first few dates were probably something like flowers and candy.
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#184161 - 04/06/09 11:51 AM Re: French place names [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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>the first few dates were probably something like flowers and candy.

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#184173 - 04/06/09 07:47 PM Re: French place names [Re: tsuwm]
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