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And then there is that little microphone.
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I've tried using the OED as a guide, but they use that darn IPA notation.
Funny. The IPA is no less or more arbitrary than the ad hoc systems. If you can take the time to learn one of those, you can learn the IPA. The real problem I have with the those other systems is that they're based on pronunciations in words, and as we all know many words differ in pronunciation from region to region. But you are free to use your system. It's just that I won't be very much helped by it.
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so, he was using '*' for schwa?
I've also seen apostrophe used for schwa.
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And then there is that little microphone.
If one cannot be bothered to learn a descent phonetic alphabet, one can hardly be imagined to have the time to plug in a microphone and record one's voice ...
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>It's just that I won't be very much helped by it.
the thing that (secretly) amuses me is that many of the obscure words that I feature haven't actually been spoken since.. oh, the Great Vowel Shift maybe?!
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many of the obscure words that I feature haven't actually been spoken since.. oh, the Great Vowel Shift maybe?!
Yes, there are many things that amuse me in these inkhorn dictionaries. A friend of mine who did graduate studies in Egyptology, once smirkingly told me that one professor at UCLA insisted on his Hieroglyphic Egyptian students going to the language lab a couple of times a week to listen to tapes of reconstructed Ancient Egyptian phonology.
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@ tsuwm many of the obscure words that I feature haven't actually been spoken since.. oh, the Great Vowel Shift maybe?!
fr. OF sembler, to resemble] /SEM bluh bul/
archaic : 1) having a resemblance: suchlike
2) seeming; apparent
It is a wonderfull thing to see the semblable
Coherence of his men's spirits, and his."
In those days it may still have been French , so not /SEM bluh bul/ but /SAHM blàh blu / .
@zmejhzd If one cannot be bothered to learn a descent phonetic alphabet, one can hardly be imagined to have the time to plug in a microphone and record one's voice ...
To me it's easier to do the microphone thing than to unravel the phonology symbols. But of course you still have one person pronouncing who might be a sociolectic or and idiolectic.
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It's nice that IPA defines its symbols by where they are pronounced in the mouth, but for most of us who are not phoneticians that's of no practical help at all. Great. So ʌ is an open-mid back unrounded vowel. How do I make my mouth do that?
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It's nice that IPA defines its symbols by where they are pronounced in the mouth, but for most of us who are not phoneticians that's of no practical help at all. Great. So ʌ is an open-mid back unrounded vowel. How do I make my mouth do that? yes, you surely need to be a trained phonetician. is that a redundancy? good, then — I think this is one of those instances that really begs for one.
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you surely need to be a trained phonetician
I learned all about phonetics, phonology, and the IPA in a 3-unit, 10-week undergraduate course at university. It was nowhere near the toughest course I've taken within my linguistics major or without.
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