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#19104 02/28/01 04:25 AM
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Babies who parents wore eye glasses where not upset with faces wearing glasses, but prefered faces with out glasses


Hmmmm, I'm not so sure about that. My parents have mentioned that when my grandfather took off his glasses to wash his face or for whatever reason, my sister and brother and I would go into hysterics of fear and terror as toddlers.

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took off his glasses to wash his face or for whatever reason, my sister and brother and I would go into hysterics of fear and terror

On a similar note, I recall thinking how wise Yul Brynner was, all those years ago, when I read that he insisted on having his children present when he first got his head shaved, so that they would then recognize him when he came home.


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Actually, I have been lucky enough to live in Hawaii. I agree there can be a wonderful mix of people. I once lived in an building with 16 units and people from 19 different countries. Sadly, there are deep pockets of ignorance even in Hawaii, and while I hope it never takes over, it certainly infects the islands.

On the subject of words, take the word haole, which some people say means foreigner or more specifically white people. But means roughly without respect for others. My husband says that really is a huge insult in the land of Aloha. I think it's a telling word about what is important in Hawaii. It's not what you look like, but how you treat others. In an ideal world...


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rant/ This is all about feeding on peoples fear of or actual isolation! I'll blame it on the big marketing dept. we call "commercialism"(again).

Didn't Yule Brynner know that he was "less of a man" for going or being bald, and that he could be part of the "Normal" crowd if he just bought the newest in revolutionary hair technology?

The suggestion that the internet might be the "true equalizer" may offer the promise, but, unfortunately to whom? /rant

Can anyone tell me when did Pride stop being a deadly sin? [no wink at all]


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rant/ This is all about feeding on peoples fear of or actual isolation! I'll blame it on the big marketing dept. we call "commercialism"(again).

And what about nationalism? Have you noticed that those who wave their flags the most are the least accepting of others?

Didn't Yule Brynner know that he was "less of a man" for going or being bald, and that he could be part of the "Normal" crowd
if he just bought the newest in revolutionary hair technology?


I'm a natural baldie. I tried Rogaine when it was in the experimental stage. I got a dry scalp and hairy fingertips. Woopie for the latest technology!

The suggestion that the internet might be the "true equalizer" may offer the promise, but, unfortunately to whom?

Initially only to those with ISPs. I'm sure people scoffed at Gutenberg too.

Can anyone tell me when did Pride stop being a deadly sin? [no wink at all]

When Hell went out of fashion. Even ol' King Solomon had similar laments.


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Dear Geoff: Who's afraid of Hell? All my friends are going to be there!


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wwh enthused Dear Geoff: Who's afraid of Hell? All my friends are going to be there!

Now, okay everyone, please do NOT let him into the secret. The poor, deluded soul believes he's still alive. No one's told him he's already there ...



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Ladymoon wrote : On the subject of words, take the word haole, which some people say means foreigner or more specifically white people. But means roughly without respect for others. My husband says that really is a huge insult in the land of Aloha.
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Sorry for the late reply, and with respect, I believe your husband has been misinformed.
Haole -- As explained to me by a full blooded Hawaiian of ancient lineage : Originally the indigenous people of Hawaii greeted each other by nearly pressing noses and an exchange of breath. The courtesy has become the Hawaiin embrace greeting in modern times although some Native Hawaiians keep up the old way among themselves and with people who understand the custom.
When Westerners came to the Islands they did not exchange breath and the term haole means "without breath" subsequently, not Hawaiian, stranger, and then also Westerner.
In the booklet, "Asian Pacific Americans A Handbook on How to Cover and Portray Our Nation's Fastest Growing Minority Group" put out for guidance of the media by National Conference of Christians and Jews, Asian American Journalists Association and the Association of Asian Pacific American Artists, the word "haole" is defined thus :
haole (hah-oh-leh) - Hawaiian term for a white person. It originally meant foreigners. Not necessarily derogatory.
I have a 1990 address for anyone interested in obtaining a copy.
When I worked in Hawaii for the Office of Hawaiian Affairs there were three of us on the staff who had *no* Hawaiian blood. We jokingly called ourselves "The Token Haoles."
The Native Hawaiians and Hawaiians of mixed blood used the term haole - but the context of the use made *all* the difference.
I received nothing but kindness and respect from the other staff and the Trustees and Administrator.
I was given a Hawaiian name by my Hawaiian friends at the office of which I am very proud and which I had legally incorporated into my name by Deed Poll.
Crazy Old Lady Haole
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Originally the indigenous people of Hawaii greeted each other by nearly pressing noses and an exchange of breath.

Wow, what do they call this? NZ Maori use exactly the same greeting to this day, except that the noses do lightly touch, and it is known as hongi


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I'm guessing that this custom has never taken hold in a culture with spicy cooking. A garlic-and-onion howdy could be nasty.


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