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zmjezhd #189716 03/04/10 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
Funny thing is I have some Indian friends who speak Tamil, and they have the same problem, though their Hindi is much better than mine.


this is common among tamil speakers. here is a young native tamil speaker talking about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRKDT_nW5u8

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this is common among tamil speakers

Yes, I didn't mean to imply that it was some rare fault of my friends. Tamil only has one consonant for each of those four in Sanskrit/Hindi: p for p, ph, b, bh; t for t, th, d, dh; etc. I remember when I was learning the Tamil syllabary, I looked at a religious of my friend's mom's: I saw some Sanskrit transliterated into Tamil script. It was impossible to figure out what the Sanskrit words actually were. When I lived in Germany, I used to marvel at how many ways my name, Jim, could be pronounced, especially the j, but also the i. The m was pretty standard.


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Here's my punishment for not taking email notifications. I've searched myself silly to find back esperanto cause you changed the headline to accents. OK. got it.

zmjezhd #189775 03/06/10 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: zmjezhd
this is common among tamil speakers
Tamil only has one consonant for each of those four in Sanskrit/Hindi: p for p, ph, b, bh; t for t, th, d, dh; etc. .

I did not know this. I can understand and speak some Tamil but I cannot read the script. Perhaps that is why I did not know that it does away with all the other consonant variations that exist in hindi and mostly other languages. I guess to learn more about your own home look beyond it. The other south indian languages kannada, Telugu have the variation I know for sure. I am not sure of malayalam.
ETA: I just saw the video. My accent is pretty much like that of the girl in the video: bolzo, bolzo for bolo, bolo (hindi for speak, speak). It is an accent made much fun of in Hindi cinema as she points out.

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Perhaps that is why I did not know that it does away with all the other consonant variations that exist in hindi and mostly other languages.

it is not so much that Tamil did away with them, Dravidian languages simply have a very different phonemic inventory than Indo-Aryan languages. The phonology of Proto-Dravidian (the reconstructed ancestor of Tamil, Malayalam, Kanada, and Telegu) only has unvoiced, unaspirated stops (link).


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