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#188745 - 01/14/10 09:44 AM canonical, from canon to cannons !?
1 = 0 stranger Registered: 01/14/10 Posts: 2 Loc: .lu.eu	(I'm not sure this is the right place to write/ask, but i'll do it). In today's word, "canonical", the etymology says Quote: ETYMOLOGY: From Latin canon (measuring rod, rule), from Greek kanon (rule). I am trying to understand the link between the Latin and Greek and the more modern "canon" (or cannon as it seems to be spelled in English) which is a piece of artillery. "Obvious" reasoning would suggest that the first cannons were measured with a measuring rod (?) but that's just a hypothesis. Does anyone know how the word (and spelling evolved to this ? thanks Serge
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#188747 - 01/14/10 11:15 AM Re: canonical, from canon to cannons !? [Re: 1 = 0]
twosleepy old hand Registered: 02/28/08 Posts: 876 Loc: western NY	Check this link: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cannon It appears more related to cannoli than canon... :0)
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#188760 - 01/14/10 07:52 PM Re: canonical, from canon to cannons !? [Re: 1 = 0]
zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Registered: 08/13/05 Posts: 3268 Loc: R'lyeh	I am trying to understand the link between the Latin and Greek and the more modern "canon" (or cannon as it seems to be spelled in English) which is a piece of artillery. The link between the Latin and the Greek is that the Romans borrowed the Greek word. The weapon cannon ultimately comes from the Latin word canna 'tube' with an augmentative suffix, i.e., 'big tube'. _________________________ Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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#188764 - 01/14/10 09:20 PM Re: canonical, from canon to cannons !? [Re: 1 = 0]
latishya enthusiast Registered: 11/24/07 Posts: 390 Loc: कहीं &...	is it safe to assume that there is a relationship between the English 'canon' and the Hindi कानून 'kAnUn', meaning 'law'?
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#188771 - 01/15/10 12:09 AM Re: canonical, from canon to cannons !? [Re: latishya]
zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Registered: 08/13/05 Posts: 3268 Loc: R'lyeh	is it safe to assume that there is a relationship between the English 'canon' and the Hindi कानून 'kAnUn', meaning 'law'? I'd say there is, and it is a case of Hindi borrowing the English word. _________________________ Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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#188772 - 01/15/10 04:43 AM Re: canonical, from canon to cannons !? [Re: zmjezhd]
latishya enthusiast Registered: 11/24/07 Posts: 390 Loc: कहीं &...	thank you that makes sense.
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#188774 - 01/15/10 06:00 AM Re: canonical, from canon to cannons !? [Re: twosleepy]
BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 5248 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague	Originally Posted By: twosleepy Check this link: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=cannon It appears more related to cannoli than canon... :0) So cannoli and cannon come from the same L. canna. Aye...cannoli Link (I've eaten the missing one)
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#188782 - 01/15/10 04:13 PM Re: canonical, from canon to cannons !? [Re: BranShea]
LukeJavan8 Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/08 Posts: 5272 Loc: Land of the Flat Water	I get some cannoli weekly from a friend who does catering. Brings me some left over's. Love'em and love him for doing so. _________________________ ----please, draw me a sheep----
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#188789 - 01/15/10 05:58 PM Re: canonical, from canon to cannons !? [Re: LukeJavan8]
zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Registered: 08/13/05 Posts: 3268 Loc: R'lyeh	A great quote from The Godfather: Clemenza: Leave the gun; take the cannoli. The clip on YouTube. _________________________ Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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#188790 - 01/15/10 09:39 PM Cannas [Re: zmjezhd]
Jackie Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/15/00 Posts: 11578 Loc: Louisville, Kentucky
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