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#188477 - 12/26/09 08:27 AM more fun with links [Re: zmjezhd]
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>You know, he does this on purpose.

I know; but I have no life either.

on a related note, I had a nightmare las...hing like this.

this gave me the idea (poor me) of making a link to this post with 'link' colorized, bolded, and underlined so that it would appear in a manner consistent with dal's expectations.

eheu! <--yet another futile attempt to get back to a word topic.

-joe (contravivulations are my life) friday

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#188479 - 12/26/09 09:40 AM Re: waist deep in toxic waste [Re: Faldage]
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We could always go back to the original question.

Whatever for? Maybs that's as why as I hasked him to clarify. Could be that specialist species (link) is what all y'all're looking for.
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#188480 - 12/26/09 02:00 PM Re: waist deep in toxic waste [Re: zmjezhd]
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#188481 - 12/26/09 02:10 PM Re: waist deep in toxic waste [Re: dalehileman]
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Step 3: RTFM!
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#188482 - 12/26/09 02:28 PM Re: waist deep in toxic waste [Re: zmjezhd]
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As you can see it sort of worked, except for the extraneous "Step 0". My mistakes were (a) not realizing zm had omitted a couple of steps, apparently thinking they were was so obvious he didn't need to, and had included a step which as you will see I didn't need. I had apparently forgotten to to hit "submit" then "edit" because otherwise you don't get the editing icons and (b) identifying each step, which apparently interferes with the process. So now I shall submit then follow tsu's intructions once more:

Explanatory text http://onelook.com/?w=*&loc=revfp2&clue=survival+requires+specific+environment

Aha now I'm beginning to catch on. Remember my original goal was to produce a link having the appearance of a url, that is, an address; and indeed that's just what I got above, except for "Explanatory text" which I didn't need.

An Aha moment: I'll do it again but this time I won't enter any explanatory text:

http://onelook.com/?w=*&loc=revfp2&clue=survival+requires+specific+environment

Big Aha! finally I'm there. But my god, what an awful lot of steps for something that in other boards is 100 % automatic

....but thanks again to all you guys for your boundless patience


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#188483 - 12/26/09 03:20 PM Re: waist deep in toxic waste [Re: dalehileman]
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http://onelook.com/?w=*&loc=revfp2&clue=survival+requires+specific+environment [not a link]

ok then, dal; now a question for *you..

why do you want to have such a monstrosity, which tells me nothing other than I'm about to be taken to onelook (and possibly the search string if I know how the reverse lookup at onelook works), when you could simply put "link" or even "link to onelook"?

now, before you unthinkingly fire off your "so the reader will know where he's about to be whisked away to", consider the following carefully (or as noted above, RTFM), IF YOU MOUSE OVER ANY HOT LINK YOU GET THE LINK ADDRESS DISPLAYED ON YOUR BROWSER'S STATUS BAR! [apologies for the shouting to other readers]


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#188484 - 12/26/09 03:39 PM Re: waist deep in toxic waste [Re: tsuwm]
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why do you want to have such a monstrosity,.......when you could simply put "link" or even "link to onelook"?


I don't exactly understand the question. Among other things besides the name of the board it tells you a suggested word combination

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IF YOU MOUSE OVER ANY HOT LINK YOU GET THE LINK ADDRESS DISPLAYED ON YOUR BROWSER'S STATUS BAR!


I tried a couple but nothing happened. Does "mouse over" mean "highlight"
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#188485 - 12/26/09 03:57 PM Re: waist deep in toxic waste [Re: dalehileman]
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>Does "mouse over" mean "highlight"

no. can you scroll up in this thread so that your link and my identical non-link both show?

if so, then you'll be able to move (don't click) your mouse pointer over one and then the other. note the difference in the results.

most browsers give you a status bar at the bottom of your browser window. when you mouse over a link/url (that is, move your mouse pointer over the link title), you should see something happen to the pointer and additionally see something happen inside the status bar. when you do the same over my identical string (except for its not being a hot link) none of the above happens.

[this status bar may be an optional display, but I leave it on for I may want to know where all of the hot links are going to take me; e.g., many of the external links given in wikipedia articles have a text title rather than a URL address for the hot links.]


Edited by tsuwm (12/26/09 04:13 PM)
Edit Reason: adding optional

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#188486 - 12/26/09 04:16 PM Re: waist deep in toxic waste [Re: tsuwm]
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Aha. I just consulted with my No. 1 Son who showed me exactly that. So I've learned something today

I note this trick works with some links but not others. In spite of his expertise, however, he says he doesn't know exactly where that text in the yellow box comes from. Also i'm not cleear what's the difference between a hot link and a cold one. Can I conclude that the cold one is black and non-clickable where the hot one is of course in color and clickable

Edited to add my No. 2 Son explains that the little box only appears only with a link to a post within the same site

Although he's much more versed at this kind of thing than I (nearly anyone else is) he also doesn't know what it is that makes a link hot so I looked it up--

Inline linking (also known as hotlinking, leeching, piggy-backing, direct linking, offsite image grabs and bandwidth theft) is the use of a linked object, often an image, from one site into a web page belonging to a second site. The second site is said to have an inline link to the site where the object is located.

Can I conclude then that a hot link is a means of linking to a specific post or passage at a different site whereas a cold link is merely a link to the address of that site
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#188488 - 12/26/09 04:49 PM Re: waist deep in toxic waste [Re: dalehileman]
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I use "hot link" simply to mean clickable; my copy of your URL address above is not clickable. (I think the term actually means something else to webocrats, having to do with "hot" as in illicitly used.)

in light of this, there's no such thing as a "cold link".

>the little box only appears only with a link to a post within the same site

huh? which browser are you using? with Firefox, Google Chrome, and Safari all active/hot links are duly displayed in the status bar. (and also IE, which I don't normally use.) specifically, the OneLook links above have this property.

as we're losing context with distance, here are two links

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_here
2) click here

both of these should display on the status bar


Edited by tsuwm (12/26/09 04:59 PM)
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