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I haven't proffered one of these for a while..
flabuginous: something which is deceptive or fraudulent
from Bird's Grandiloquent Dictionary.
I can find it nowhere else, and the def'n is suspect, presented as a thing, since the form is obviously adjectival. (you'd expect it to be "relating to deception or fraud", or the like.)
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Is this Grandiloquent Dictionary noted for such miscasting of words or otherwise generally suspect?
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Who would trust a dictionary that puts Grandiloquent up front of itself? Looks like the perfect dictionary for the otherwise entertaining word-pedant Tom Coryate, who brought in the word 'umbrella', but also tried words like : antipriscianisticall.
Early 17th century.
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flabuginous: something which is deceptive or fraudulent
The inkhorn terms can be fun sometimes. First off, maybe who wrote the definition replaced of things with something. It doesn't look like any Latin-derived word. flabellum is a 'small fan', flabello 'to fan'. The Greeks borrowed flabellum from the Romans and Hellenized it to φλαβίλλιον (phlabillion).
This is the problem with most of these rare words lists, they give no examples and merely copy from some previous, uncigted competitor. The word only shows up in Google for websites and in no books.
Good luck in your search.
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antipriscianisticall
Not bothering to check my copy of Grandiose Flatigenous Wordhoard, two can play that game, I have to say I like antipriscianistical, but can only guess at its meaning. Perhaps, a 17th century synonym for descriptivist. From Priscian, a Roman grammarian.
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That surely will be it. He was fond of inventing new words, so he may often have had confrontations with prescriptivists.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was responsable for flabuginous as well. He was a rather fanatic Reformed moralist as well, quite obsessed with gallows, which he loved to describe to the tiniest detail as well as pillars and fertile landscapes. A very eccentric character but a good observer.
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I departed from Oppenheim the twelfth day of September being munday about sixe of the clocke in the morning, and came to the city of Mentz about tenne of the clocke in the morning, which was tenne miles beyond it. It was my hap in this journey betwixt Oppenheim and Mentz to have such a notable companion as I never had before in all my life. For he was both learned and unlearned. Learned because being but a wood-cleaver (for he told me that he was the Jesuits wood-cleaver of Mentz) he was able to speake Latine. A matter as rare in one of that sordid facultie as to see a white Crowe or a blacke Swanne. Againe he was unlearned, because the Latin which he did speake was such incongruall and disjoynted stuffe, such antipriscianisticall eloquence, that I thinke were grave Cato alive (who for his constant severity was called αγελαστος [ agelastos], because he never or very seldome laughed) he should have more cause to laugh if he should heare this fellow deliver his minde in Latin, then when he saw an Asse eate thistles. ( link)
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Is this Grandiloquent Dictionary noted for such miscasting of words or otherwise generally suspect? I'd have to say an emphatic "yes!" to that. someone did a study of the GD: "946 of these 2700 words do not yield any results in six different dictionaries, hence many of them might be misspellings". and goes on to list some of the misspellings: abcedarian, anaxiphillia, anklyosis, antedeluvian, anthrophobia, arachibutyrophillia, autovoxiphillia, chilihedron, dendrophillia, divigate, dolichprosopic, eleutherophillist, gerontophillia, hisbid, lucelence, misandronist, neophillia, nuciverous, olfactphobia, onamatophobia, orthpraxy, pathenophillia, pathenophobia, pedantrocracy, puellaphillist, schrecklichkreit, shistaceous, sorocide, taphephillia, tonitruphobia, tyrophillia, valedutinarian, vespertillian* link earlier this year I did a week of wwftds on words taken from GD: imparlibidinous (Bird had this as inparlibidinous) schrecklichkeit (misspelled as schrecklichkreit) percribrate (the misspelling in C. S. Bird was percribate) mutuatitial (misspelled as mutatitial) obaceration (Bird actually had this spelled correctly, but dropped it for lack of verification; as of Dec. 2008 it has a definitive headword in the online OED, whereas it was pretty well obscured (under obacerate) in OED2.) [one of the disclaimers on my site: "You try spell-checking this stuff!"] I've tried various knock-offs of the word in question here , flabuginous; no joy.
*you might actually recognize some of these; e.g., abecedarian, antediluvian, divagate, schistaceous, valetudinarian, etc.
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Lessee abcedarian.
OK, it spots it as a misspelling but doesn't offer the correct abecedarian. Google(R), however, when faced with abcedarian asks "Did you mean: abecedarian.
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Lessee abcedarian.
OK, it spots it as a misspelling but doesn't offer the correct abecedarian.]. I did. interestingly, OED(online) gives abcdarian as a variant.
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Google France: looked for 'flabugineux' This comes from a blog with people playing with language: link (word flabuginuex in orange part) C'est parti pour un sixiÞme petit jeu, sur un scÚnario du flabugineux moutch! from Dictionaire Godefroi,; ancien français: flaber , voir fabler Fabler 2. fablement, s,m., fable, faubeor, fablaor, fableur, flabeeur, flabeur s,m., auteur the fabliaux, des fables souvent avec l' idée de menteur, tromperFabler,-eir, faubler, fabler flabler verbe! link
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yeahbut, it's all French to me! (I gather it's all about fables.)
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Coryate describes the woodcutter's mode of speech as 'antipriscianisticall' (after Priscian-us, name of a celebrated Roman grammarian) meaning ungrammatical, an adjective of his own manufacture which has justifiably failed to find a place in the Oxford English Dictionary
- Michael Strachan, The life and adventures of Thomas Coryate
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Escaping the flagrant evidence?  "flabuginous: something which is deceptive or fraudulent"Compare: "flabugineux" flabeeur, flabeur s,m., auteur the fabliaux, des fables souvent avec l' idée de menteur, tromperFabler,-eir, faubler, fabler flabler verbe! It's all French to me too, but to stick to the facts, it says: "with the idea of a liar, to deceive." = deceptive or fraudulent.
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C'est parti pour un sixième petit jeu, sur un scénario du
flabugineux moutch!
"One swallow does not a spring make."Old French flaber varying with falber makes sense: simple metathesis. (It is related to Spanish hablar 'to speak' < Latin fabulo 'to tell tales'.) But, *flabugineux does not appear in Godefroy's Dictionnaire. What of the -ugineux? I guess that the -x makes it plural, but what of the -gineu-? Whence that? Could have something to do with genou 'knee', I suppose, or oxygène 'oxygen[/i]. Still, it's closer than anything else I've seen, but for all we know the guy who posted it, he may got it from reading the Graniloquent Dictionary.
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The -x does not make it necessarily plural. It's an adverb or adjectif to start with. précieux , avantageux , prétentieux. When nouned it becomes: le précieux-les précieux ( masc.) la précieuse- les précieuses (fem.) ("Les Précieuses Ridicules" by Molière) Adj. Le docteur pretentieux - les docteur pretentieux. La femme prétentieuse - les femmes prétentieuses.( ). True, those guys are playing with it and it can come from Graniloquent Dictionary as they are juggling with English words too in that thread.
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The -x does not make it necessarily plural.
Right you are. Dim in the pre-caffeine morning me.
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