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#187532 10/31/09 09:21 AM
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Hallo everyone! laugh
I'm a student living in Italy and i'm working on a project dealing with Idiomatic expressions (body- colour- life as a journey ecc..).
My aim is that of showing how many idiomatic expressions are used into tv-shows (such as heroes, dexter, griffin and so on), and what I'd like to know is if that is possible with Wordsmith to have a list of the most common ones in English (or American) for a faster and more accurate research.
I'm working with the subtitles files converted into .txt in order to have a bigger linguistic corpus.
I apoligize for any english mistakes!!

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I don't watch any of your proffered shows, but here's something to get you started: list of idioms
-joe (I may be an idiom) friday

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You might also try this. For a non native speaker this might be somewhat easier to understand. Just working by alphabeth letter is simpler than by working through categories.

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? the wiki list is also alphabetized..

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That wiki page contains one strange error, so maybe more.
A little bird told me Look into the etymology of this expression:

"Er lif t'el baerd " (?) This can't be true. Click the word and see the warning. Has this ever been a Dutch expression? Dutch Google search brings up nothing at all.

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You're not questioning the reliability of Wiki, are you?


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LukeJavan8 #187541 10/31/09 04:58 PM
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I wouldn't dare. I just came onto something weird.

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You're not questioning the reliability of Wiki, are you?

The veracity of Wikipedia and other encyclopedias aside, I find it interesting how the word wiki has been genericized from its meaning as a kind of web application to come to mean a particular wiki that uses that software to publish an online encyclopedia. The first instance of wiki as software was on the c2.com website. It is not an encyclopedia, it is the Portland (Oregon) Patterns Repository (link). I am not complaining about this usage, as it is perfectly normal example of semantic drift and it causes no confusion for me, but thought you'd like to know. (In its way it is similar to calling any dictionary a Websters.)


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zmjezhd #187548 11/01/09 09:02 AM
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Ok guys!! I've just checked the glossary provided by Wiki. This is going to help me! I have just to copy those expressions into a txt file and put it into wordsmith.
By the way, do you know if there are other (good and professional) sites where i can get othere idioms?
Guys I thank you, you've been nice to me! And this site is wonderful, a great source of information for linguistics! You guys are great!!

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it is perfectly normal example of semantic drift

Yes, and prior to your examples an even larger change from Wiki meaning fast to Wiki meaning, as you say, a kind of web application.

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