#183710 - 03/19/09 01:13 PM
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Does a loanword mean it should be given back at a certain point? I would give this one back if I were you. Isn't there an English equivalent for it? Something with gravity or so? I've listenened to the pronunciation and it is nowhere near it. Shjwayr-poonkt would come much closer. And when you look at the way it is used I think you wouldn't miss it.: Context:"In the only arty shot, the Dalai Lama, seen in silhouette, sits at the schwerpunkt of a Mondrian-like composition." 
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#183717 - 03/19/09 03:35 PM
Re: schwerpunkt
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 ∴ ∴ ∴ ∴ lots of little schwerpunkts
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#183755 - 03/21/09 03:33 AM
Re: schwerpunkt
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schwerpunk \!/ 
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#183756 - 03/21/09 03:37 AM
Re: schwerpunkt
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I've listenened to the pronunciation and it is nowhere near it.
Shjwayr-poonkt would come much closer.
Closer to what? If it is a loanword do the English speakers have to pronounce it the German way?
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#183759 - 03/21/09 05:16 AM
Re: schwerpunkt
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I know it's an overcharged comparison, but when you borrow a shirt from someone you don't use it to mopp the floor with. Maybe it does not matter. ---Suggested by Latishya: It can be applied to any loanword used in any language - should the speakers of the language that borrowed the word try to mimic the pronunciation it had in the original? Could be worth a discussion.
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#183768 - 03/21/09 09:40 AM
Re: centre of gravitas
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Does a loanword mean it should be given back at a certain point?
You'll have to ask the Germans who coined the word Lehnwort, and the English person who calqued (loan translation, Lehnübersetzung) it as loanword. It's funny that the other kind of word, Erbwort 'inheritance word', was not calqued. What's even funnier is that German Lehn (Latin feudum, feodum, beneficium) doesn't really mean 'loan', it's 'fief'. A Lehnsmann is a vassal.
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#183774 - 03/21/09 10:49 AM
Re: schwerpunkt
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Isn't the glyph ∴ a therefore sign? That is the plainer cousin of the asterism ( link). [Addendum: Fixed the glyph. Whatever happened to the ability to use Unicode on this site?]
Edited by zmjezhd (03/21/09 10:51 AM)
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#183786 - 03/21/09 02:57 PM
Re: centre of gravitas
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Is there a specific difference between a Lehnwort and an Erbwort?
Yes. Erbwörter are the ones English got from Old (via Middle) English. Lehnwörter are the ones English got from French, Dutch, Yiddish, Greek, Latin, etc.
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#183787 - 03/21/09 02:58 PM
Re: centre of gravitas
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someone should mention that in Anu's update thread!!
thanks for that ron o. I see you did it. (I, myself, didn't think that Anu read any threads on this site.)
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#183842 - 03/23/09 05:47 PM
Re: centre of gravitas
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Anu read one of mine and wrote me about it in a PM.
And he quoted it and another in another weekly newsletter.
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#183860 - 03/24/09 10:35 AM
Re: centre of gravitas
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If Anu does not read threads someone in his surrounding does, proved by occasional pickings from the board. I'm only going by 'wordsmith' posts, as I generally don't see the emails. - joe (did anyone here get contest recognition?) friday
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#183874 - 03/24/09 05:55 PM
Re: centre of gravitas
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Did anyone besides Olly take part? (I was lost in scrabbling ) Why Olly, the first one wasn't that bad.
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#183920 - 03/25/09 07:45 PM
Re: centre of gravitas
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mathematicaster = adder who can't sum
(my others were even worse) Might it be an adder that cannot fish; or an adder that will not strike? But, then you have another portmanteau -- is that right? Can a portmanteau be a word with two utterly different meanings?
Edited by PastorVon (03/25/09 07:46 PM)
Edit Reason: word left out
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