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#18248 12/01/01 04:07 PM
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Note on Arne: ARNE (m) Short form of ARNOLD and Scandinavian names beginning with the Old Norse element arn meaning "eagle".

...I've lost the site. Sorry I can't post the url, but will go back and find it.

Thomas Arne is the only one I can find, too, who composed maggots. Now to compose a maggot, be very patient with it. Give it lots of reassurance, encouragement, and advise it to take deep breaths. Deep breathing is essential here if a maggot is to be composed.

Scoring maggots (now that's another thing altogether),
DubDub

PS: Back to minerals: I asked above would ice be of the lightest minerals? SG and all that jazz?

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And why is is that military drill instructors are so fond of calling their new recruits, "Maggots!"?


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I would like to have a dollar for every ti;me I have seen "erne" in a crossword puzzle.


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What would be the metaphorical situations here for when our coldest natures float upon our liquid ones?
Wordwind, I have thought and thought about this intriguing question, and have been unable to come up with anything other than the hackneyed he/she acts cold, but that hides a warm heart. Could you provide any examples or pointers?




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Jackie... I threw the ice upon water out as bait. I've packed it away in my head to see when something will remind me of it. I don't know how other people think, but I see our inner workings as being fluid. Some are fluid in and out; then there are those who are fluid in, but ice without, like a frozen pond.

Speaking of: What was it that Emerson said about (and here comes a horrible paraphrase) the majority of people spend their lives skating on surfaces?

Back to ice: Then there are those who come out of the night like icebergs, they are so deadly and rigid. But that's really an insult to ice bergs. (Is it one word or two?)

And, to maintain my persistence, is ice actually the lightest of minerals SG-wise?

I've gone fond of thinking of myself, incidentally, as being dense as iridium this week. Thanks, Stales!

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Dear WW: could you by any chance be thinking of Emerson's friend?

The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.

- Henry David Thoreau

As a bit of sad trivia, I read recently that both Emerson and Thoreau were victims of tuberculosis.


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wwh: The lives of quiet desperation I'm familiar with as Thoreau's. I don't know whether Thoreau also wrote the comment about the majority of people spending their lives skating on surfaces. He certainly could have.

About Emerson, I remember having heard that he climbed (spelling error alert) Qtaden in a suit.

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Sorry I didn't rsvp IMMEDIATELY, but I spent the last couple of days earning my keep, to-ing and fro-ing from a mine site near Mt Magnet, about 600km N of Perth (in the middle of nowhere).

Interesting q about the SG of ice. You are quite correct that, because it floats on water, it is less dense / has a lower SG than water. What that value is I don't know - haven't had time to look it up.

Why is it so?

When water is frozen it expands - or, in scientific terms, its volume increases. Thus, a volume of ice (say one cc) will, when thawed, produce less than one cc of water. SG is calculated as the mass (or "weight" - to use the incorrect vernacular) of a substance per standard unit of volume (one cc). Thus it's easy to see that a cc of ice has less mass than the same volume of water, a lower SG and that it will float. well I think I can follow all that!!

A WILD stab as to what ice's SG is.....considering that seven eighths of an iceberg sinks in sea water (which is denser than pure water), it is tempting to assume that the SG of ice is around 12.5% less than that of water - ie 0.875. Evenkite, the candidate for lowest SG last week, has an SG of 0.87 so it would be a close call if these wild assumptions are anywhere near correct. If I knew what the coefficient of expansion (ie the volume change) for the freezing of water was we'd have the answer!

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Dear WW: I could not find reference to Emerson climbing Katahdin in a tuxedo. But he might have. He could not have found a sporting good store.


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Jackie - I apologise if somebody answered your q elsewhere in this thread - had a quick look but couldn't find one...

I think the word that was buzzing around your head may have been "scoria" - it's easy to see why "scree" may have popped out instead.

Scoria is a generic term for all the bits of sh** that are chucked out by a volcano - and in particular (pun intended), the smaller stuff. Pumice and volcanic "ash" are examples of scoria.

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