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#181138 12/23/08 10:40 AM
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A gudgeon is also linked to another unusual word, 'pintle', to make the fitting for a rudder on the transom of a boat. There are usually 2 of each & the pintles are upwards-pointing spikes on the boat with the gudgeons being rings on the detachable rudder which engage the pintles to secure the rudder to the stern. Isn't nautical language fascinating?

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Originally Posted By: ianhutch
A gudgeon is also linked to another unusual word, 'pintle', to make the fitting for a rudder on the transom of a boat. There are usually 2 of each & the pintles are upwards-pointing spikes on the boat with the gudgeons being rings on the detachable rudder which engage the pintles to secure the rudder to the stern. Isn't nautical language fascinating?


My grandfather used to use the terms 'pintle' and 'gudgeon' when 'fixing' things on his boat.
I never knew what he was talking about. Nice memory.
Welcome ianhutch, it's good to have new folks aboard, makes for more interesting discussion.


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Quote:
The premise of the argument is that the majority of Americans
are gudgeons, etc.


When they believe everything the news media say, I could
not agree more, especially local media, with their
comments, like, 'seen and heard exclusively here..."


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Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8


Quote:
The premise of the argument is that the majority of Americans
are gudgeons, etc.


When they believe everything the news media say, I could
not agree more, especially local media, with their
comments, like, 'seen and heard exclusively here..."

Well if your mass media is anything like ours, the opposite is usually true - the further away from the events the media outlet is, the further from the truth the story goes. From local to regional to state to national to international, each level adds its own embellishments until the 'Chinese whispers' syndrome sets in.

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Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8


especially local media, with their comments, like, 'seen and heard exclusively here..."

Well, it is EXCLUSIVE when you are the one who made it up!!!


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Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8

My grandfather used to use the terms 'pintle' and 'gudgeon' when 'fixing' things on his boat.


Usually he shouted these terms right after scarping his knuckles!!!


Gudgeon sounds like an expletive from some other language.


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Is gudgeon related to a curmudgeon?

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Gudgeon is what you leave in high.

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Originally Posted By: The Pook
Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8


Quote:
The premise of the argument is that the majority of Americans
are gudgeons, etc.


When they believe everything the news media say, I could
not agree more, especially local media, with their
comments, like, 'seen and heard exclusively here..."

Well if your mass media is anything like ours, the opposite is usually true - the further away from the events the media outlet is, the further from the truth the story goes. From local to regional to state to national to international, each level adds its own embellishments until the 'Chinese whispers' syndrome sets in.


With our media both are true, close or far away, at least where I live.
They pick and choose what to report, leaving out truth, giving half-truths
ruining people's reputations all in the guise of American First Amendment
rights, even slander and libel.


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Originally Posted By: BillSid
Is gudgeon related to a curmudgeon?



Curmudgeon: a miser, or a (frequently old) person full of
stubborn ideas or opinions.
Gudgeon: l) small fish, 2)a gullible person 3)a bait, 4)pivot
on which a wheel or something similar turns.

(Curmudgeon, thanks to Wiktionary)

Those who trace words back to Indo-European, frequently found
on this site, and not to insult any, but back even further to
the gibber-speak in the Lascaux caves, would probably find some
connection.


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