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What is the word or phrase for the arch of blue on the western horizon on a cloudy day? I think it promises a clear day tomorrow.
I tried the reverse dictionary and got words like azure, Seattle International Airport and duck. ???

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I think it promises a clear day tomorrow

Isn't that just what it means? A segment of promise ? \:\)

Often the sunset sky predicts the weather for the next day.
Yesterday at sunset there was a deep red sun sort of dropping from dark grey clouds. That means rain and sunshine for now. A red dawn promises rain.
It's caught in a popular saying:
" morning-red, water in the ditch; evening-red, nice weather aboard." (can't make it rhyme in English)

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 Originally Posted By: BranShea

It's caught in a popular saying:
" morning-red, water in the ditch; evening-red, nice weather aboard." (can't make it rhyme in English)


The English language version is "Red sky at night, sailor's delight. Red sky at morning, sailors take warning." Probably hard to make that one rhyme in Nederlandsk.

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 Originally Posted By: Faldage
 Originally Posted By: BranShea

It's caught in a popular saying:
" morning-red, water in the ditch; evening-red, nice weather aboard." (can't make it rhyme in English)


The English language version is "Red sky at night, sailor's delight. Red sky at morning, sailors take warning."


some versions say "shepherds" for "sailors", and the version the Gospels doesn't use either.

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Of course, the "sailor" version doens't have anything to do with the weather. The 'red sky at night' part means there's a riot in town. The townies are mad at the sailors for stealing all their women and the sailors are burning the downtown area. The 'red sky at morning' part means that the shore patrol has come with their paddy wagons with the flashing red lights and are hauling off any sailors stupid enough to hang around that long.

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 Originally Posted By: Faldage
Of course, the "sailor" version doens't have anything to do with the weather. The 'red sky at night' part means there's a riot in town. The townies are mad at the sailors for stealing all their women and the sailors are burning the downtown area. The 'red sky at morning' part means that the shore patrol has come with their paddy wagons with the flashing red lights and are hauling off any sailors stupid enough to hang around that long.


thanks. I didn't know that and its always interesting to learn the origins of folk sayings.

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 Originally Posted By: Zed
What is the word or phrase for the arch of blue on the western horizon on a cloudy day? I think it promises a clear day tomorrow.
I tried the reverse dictionary and got words like azure, Seattle International Airport and duck. ???

pretty sure its none of those...

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 Originally Posted By: Faldage
Of course, the "sailor" version doens't have anything to do with the weather. The 'red sky at night' part means there's a riot in town. The townies are mad at the sailors for stealing all their women and the sailors are burning the downtown area. The 'red sky at morning' part means that the shore patrol has come with their paddy wagons with the flashing red lights and are hauling off any sailors stupid enough to hang around that long.

Source? This sounds like what we would call a furphy to me. \:\/

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I'm curious as to how the sunset should predict the next day's weather when in the Northern Hemisphere your weather comes from the East? I can see how it could possibly work down here on the bottom side of the globe where our weather goes West to East, but surely when you face the sunset you're looking towards yesterday's weather aren't you?

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 Originally Posted By: Faldage
Of course, the "sailor" version doens't have anything to do with the weather. The 'red sky at night' part means there's a riot in town. The townies are mad at the sailors for stealing all their women and the sailors are burning the downtown area. The 'red sky at morning' part means that the shore patrol has come with their paddy wagons with the flashing red lights and are hauling off any sailors stupid enough to hang around that long.

The paddy wagons will come and get you for spreading falsifications and yes I can make it rhyme easy.

Rood by nacht, schipper slaap zacht! Rood in de morgen, schipper's zorgen ; oops, it was just the other way around, so...

You know all these sailor's words come from Dutch and English together. Ask the house-lingoist.

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