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#172217 - 12/20/07 09:10 PM Re: Theory of everything [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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Originally Posted By: etaoin
Originally Posted By: dalehileman
Still not sure who is Milo


Milo is themilum.


...and don't you forget it.

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#172218 - 12/20/07 09:24 PM Re: Theory of everything [Re: themilum]
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Still not sure who is Milo


Milo is themilum.


...and don't you forget it.


AKA Mr. Minderbinder.

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#172220 - 12/20/07 11:15 PM Re: ou sont les Snowdens d'antan? [Re: Faldage]
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Mr. Minderbinder.

Quote:
Milo Minderbinder: Nately died a wealthy man, Yossarian. He had over sixty shares in the syndicate.
Yossarian: What difference does that make? He's dead.
Milo Minderbinder: Then his family will get it.
Yossarian: He didn't have time to have a family.
Milo Minderbinder: Then his parents will get it.
Yossarian: They don't need it, they're rich.
Milo Minderbinder: Then they'll understand.
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#172222 - 12/21/07 05:08 AM Re: ou sont les Snowdens d'antan? [Re: zmjezhd]
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Oh,shoot!
How did François Villon come into this thread of...

Qu' à ce refrain ne vous remaine:
Mais où sont les neiges d'antan?

Ballad of the ladies of days gone by.

( beautiful as it is though )

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#172226 - 12/21/07 07:19 AM Re: ou sont les Snowdens d'antan? [Re: BranShea]
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How did François Villon come into this thread of...

Lt. Minderbinder and Snowden are character's in Catch-22, agreat American novel. "Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?" is a question asked during the course of the book. It was my introduction to Villon, something I'll always be grateful to Joseph Heller for.
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#172234 - 12/21/07 11:43 PM Re: ou sont les Snowdens d'antan? [Re: zmjezhd]
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Ah, zmjejezhd, I am not the Milo of Heller, I am rather the Milo of Vonnegut.

In 1972 I met Kurt Vonnegut at the Airport Holiday Inn Lounge in Birmingham, Alabama. We (I) talked of Science Fiction and the nature of life in depth while we sat drinking at the mirrored bar until late at night. Me being me, I did most of the talking.

A year or so later -- after seeing his photograph in the back fly of "Breakfast Of Champions" -- I saw that the nappily ruffled fellow with whom I had chated that night was none other than THE Kurt Vonnegut who very often visited his 80 year old aunt in Birmingham. Vonnegut's favorite aunt was a life long attendee of the Ruhoma Baptist Church in South East Lake which was only a short three miles away.

From an Amazon review...

Breakfast of Champions is about what it means to be alive and kickin'. The universe is unreasonable. The syntax of stuff doesn't make sense. The center caves in. When Trout arrives in Midland City, an admirer named Milo Maritimo approaches him as savior:

"Oh, Mr. Trout teach us to sing and dance and laugh and cry. We've tried to survive so long on money and sex and envy and real estate and football and basketball and automobiles and television and alcohol — on sawdust and broken glass!"

[Trout responds]

"You have nothing but desolation and despair here, you say! I bring you more of the same!"



And so it goes.


Edited by themilum (12/22/07 10:29 AM)

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#172236 - 12/22/07 09:41 AM Re: ou sont les Snowdens d'antan? [Re: themilum]
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really? and here i was thinking of you as southern version of milo o'shea!.. (tall, dark, brillant, witty with word, a great actor-and well acquainted with the juice of the barley corn)

oh, well time for a reframe!--
now i'll have to go back to remembering what you look like.(I've seen photo's!--we ladies share info among ourselves!)
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#172237 - 12/22/07 12:15 PM Re: Friga Dune [Re: themilum]
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Ruhoma Baptist Church

Venus, are you sure you didn't mean Ruhama Baptist Church. Ruhama is from the Hebrew for 'consoled'.

Since we're in a tale-telling mood, I once tended bar at the hospitality suite for a science fiction convention where I got to make small talk with and serve drinks to some greats in skiffy: Theodore ("90% of everything is crud") Sturgeon, Jerry (Chaos Manor) Pournelle, and Richard (With The Bentfin Boomer Boys On Little Old New Alabama) Lupoff.

Pooteeweet!
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#172239 - 12/22/07 01:55 PM Re: Friga Dune [Re: zmjezhd]
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My apologies, zmjezhd. I knew that "Ruhoma" didn't look right and I attended two wedding's in that church. But after a lifetime of saying rhu-home-uh I couldn't dredge up "Ruhama". My bad.

Theodore Sturgeon? Wow! My earliest hero.

And oddly in my reading I seemed to have missed Richard Lupoff. Thank you. I'll check for his stories, especially "With the Bentfin Boomer Boys on Little Old New Alabama".

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#172248 - 12/23/07 11:10 AM Re: Theory of everything [Re: Jackie]
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while I could act like a dictator, I really don't want to; I would strongly prefer to follow his hands-off policy. So please, let me keep doing that.


A threat by paralipsis is somehow even more ominous than a conventional threat.

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