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Looking into the italian dictionary and Google pages for maccheroni, I found some facts, maybe amusing . The word is written a little differently and not all types of pasta called 'maccheroni' have the short cut elbow-like form but it can cover lots of types of pasta (little codice della pasta). From dictionary: > A maccherone is a gullible, dopey person. >There is a saying: "cascare or piovere come il cacio sui maccheroni",( something falling or raining like cheese on the maccheroni) meaning something coming in handy at the right moment. To see all the various types of pasta:link: pasta it A nice and simple recipy: Maccheroni con pecorino e mentaSardinian origin: some type of short pasta with thinly sliced pecorino(the hard sheep cheese)and mint. The trick is to melt the cheese with some water and when melted drain off the rest of the water and add some oil instead.Keep below cooking level.Add a few dry mint leaves and wait till the flavor has settled then use like any pasta sauce. Meaning stir well throught the hot 'macaroni'. (like pesto)
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Nah, I did not expect you to go do the cooking, Dale.
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And for those of you who love etymologies as much as I: ecco la. (Caution, danger, it's in Italian.) The dish also gave its name to one of my favorite styles of poetic language, the macaronic. Vivat Merlinus Coccajus!
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Yes, 'In Dulci Jubilo'was brought in by an AWAD member in this week's compendium.I guess everyone who sings in a choir or else knows it. A great song to sing as a "canon".(if that word exists in English)(?) And this one? Vivat Merlinus Coccajus!  ???
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Well--confess I thought 'ecco la' must mean look at that or see here, but. Ecco was part of a line in the movie of an Italian student filmmaker, whom I have nearly finished helping with English subtitles. (It has been an intersting experience; the lack of fluency in English, which required the need for help with the subtitles, has also meant that I have had real struggles to understand what was intended, as I speak pretty much no Italian.) But an online dict. says ecco la means here. Also that ecco means here. Chi sa?
And, now I know I've written in the macaronic style unknowingly off and on for years; for ex. wishing someone a Monday magnifique. [/saputo]
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ecco la. (Caution, danger, it's in Italian.)Vivat Merlinus Coccajus I've given this one a second and a third look. It's pretty hushy-mushy a macaronic text itself. A Greek Italian haggish. Ecco stands for everything one wants to show,present,point at or give, both here and there. Eccoci:here we are. Eccolo: there it is. Ecco uno specchio: here or there is a mirror. But anyway : Vivat Merlinus Coccajus! Avoid Gajus and Gribus! .
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ecco laI didn't even give it a second thought. Italian ecco la is kinda like French voilą (lit., 'see there') and voici (lit., see here'). Latin has ecce (as in Pilate's ecce homo 'behold the man', though also translated as 'lo, the man'), and I assumed that Italian ecco had something to do with that. The word deixis seems ą propos here.
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Ah,thanks.We have no other word.Studied or not we use the word
canon. A round sounds nice.I found a synonym in the books,a word that nobody uses, that translates to 'chain song'. But that is not a good word for it. It is really a round or a circle song.
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Look here? Look bad(ly)? Babelfish gave me "look times"...?
Thanks for the deixis ref. That was exactly where my problems were, doing the subtitles. There were some phrases that would sound a bit "off" in average conversation, but since I had no way of knowing whether they fit the particular character or, say, made perfect sense given a preceding scene, I left them as they were.
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Look here?Jackie, not all translations come out of some machine translation software. Gucken 'to peep, look'; mal (untranslatable particle). Translations offered: 'take a gander' (warning more foul parts) and 'lookee'.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Ah! Thank you very much! Indeed, a literal translation all too often yields incorrect/humorous results.
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