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#170546 - 10/11/07 09:01 AM Re: homonyms [Re: tsuwm]
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#170548 - 10/11/07 09:15 AM
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Yes I do understand and that it means ; a person whose simpleness provokes comic effects.(litterally)
It goes a bit far to dig out Spanish history of theater.
I brought up the guinea pig because they also are pretty comic pets besides being champion reproducers and sharing the word.
As this all came from: bobo. When I look up bobo it still seems to go with modern theatrical items.
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#170551 - 10/11/07 09:45 AM
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The OED offers: 1. 'A dull, heavy, stupid fellow: a lubber' (J[ohnson]); a clown, a nincompoop. b. The last boy in a school class, the dunce. 2. A name for different species of Gannet.
The primary meaning has a first citation of 1599-1603 and the secondary of 1634. Close. Ultimate etymology is unknown. Cf. German Bube in the sense of 'fool, lubber'. Kluge connects Bube with English boy and Dutch boef 'crook, rogue, cheat'.
As for clown, the OED has: 1. A countryman, rustic, or peasant. 2. A man without refinement or culture; an ignorant, rude, uncouth, ill-bred man. 3. A fool or jester, as a stage-character (? orig. representing a rustic buffoon), or (in Shakespeare) a retainer of a court or a great house. The etymology connects it with the word clod and various words in Low German languages._________________________
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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#170637 - 10/15/07 06:55 PM
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The OED offers: 1. 'A dull, heavy, stupid fellow: a lubber' (J[ohnson]); a clown, a nincompoop. b. The last boy in a school class, the dunce. 2. A name for different species of Gannet.
The primary meaning has a first citation of 1599-1603 and the secondary of 1634. Close. Ultimate etymology is unknown. Cf. German Bube in the sense of 'fool, lubber'. Kluge connects Bube with English boy and Dutch boef 'crook, rogue, cheat'.
As for clown, the OED has: 1. A countryman, rustic, or peasant. 2. A man without refinement or culture; an ignorant, rude, uncouth, ill-bred man. 3. A fool or jester, as a stage-character (? orig. representing a rustic buffoon), or (in Shakespeare) a retainer of a court or a great house. The etymology connects it with the word clod and various words in Low German languages.
Damn...this thread has come full circle.
Edited by themilum (10/16/07 07:49 PM)
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