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#170505 - 10/10/07 08:44 AM Longest word without repeating a letter
AnnaStrophic Offline
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I learned this on a quiz site, but is it indeed so?

"Uncopyrightable is the longest word in the English language without repeating a letter."

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#170507 - 10/10/07 09:19 AM Re: Longest word without repeating a letter [Re: AnnaStrophic]
of troy Offline
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Uncopyrightable text includes recipes and stitch patterns (for embroidery, crochet, knitting, etc.) No one "owns" the recipe for white bread or single crochet, or garter stitch or cross stitch.

this is one of the reasons why the coca cola recipe is top secret. if it ever got out, the information would be public domain.

(as for uncopyrightable being the longest word in the English language without repeating a letter, i dunno!)
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#170508 - 10/10/07 09:40 AM Re: Longest word without repeating a letter [Re: of troy]
TheFallibleFiend Offline
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"... recipes and stitch patterns ..."
I had no idea. Thanks.

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#170510 - 10/10/07 09:45 AM Re: Longest word without repeating a letter [Re: TheFallibleFiend]
Jackie Offline

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Oh, yeah--Kern's Kitchen has fought strongly to protect its Derby Pie copyright. Other people can make pies out of the same ingredients, but nobody else can call it Derby Pie. Some infringement or other usually makes the paper here every couple of years or so, just prior to the first Saturday in May.

Oh--sorry, Anna; I've heard that about uncopyrightable, too, but don't know where to verify/disprove it.


Edited by Jackie (10/10/07 09:46 AM)

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#170517 - 10/10/07 11:53 AM Re: Longest word without repeating a letter [Re: Jackie]
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Richard Lederer agrees if you limit yourself to 'fairly common words', but watch out for dermatoglyphics.

-joe (ambidextrously) friday

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#170518 - 10/10/07 12:36 PM Re: Longest word without repeating a letter [Re: tsuwm]
Myridon Offline
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So patterns and recipes are uncopyrightables? (^_^)
Derby Pie would be a trademark not a copyright.
A secret formula would have to have a patent not a copyright.
I think your recipes and patterns technically would be copyrightable, but all I would have to do is re-write it in a different fashion (paraphrase) to avoid infringement of the copywrite. Copywrite covers the way something is written, not the outcome of absorbing the information. You would like to be able to "copyright" the making of the exact sweater not the exact writing of the pattern for the sweater.
If Coca-cola's formula was patented (and wasn't it originally a "patent medicine"?), it would have expired long ago.

[Edit: yes, i had a spelling malfunction today]


Edited by Myridon (10/10/07 02:09 PM)

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#170519 - 10/10/07 12:44 PM Re: Longest word without repeating a letter [Re: Myridon]
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>uncopywriteables

if you buy uncopywriteable as a noun, I think you must agree that it is 'fairly uncommon'.

-joe ( you frowzy-tingled-humpback ) friday

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#170520 - 10/10/07 12:46 PM Re: Longest word without repeating a letter [Re: Myridon]
Buffalo Shrdlu Offline
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Originally Posted By: Myridon
copywrite


copyWRITE?
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#170521 - 10/10/07 12:59 PM Re: Longest word without repeating a letter [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
of troy Offline
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in knitting (and crochet, and embroidery) there are stitch patterns (cross stitch, 'stocking knit/stockinette', single crochet.)

the directions for these are pretty simple.. there is a limited number of ways to say 'knit every stitch in the first row, purl every stitch in second row" and copyrighting the words is difficult. (photos, layout, charts, typeface.. these detail go into the copyright protection of a book of knit stitches.. but the words? uncopyrightable.)

like wise a cross stitch (looks like an X not a +) can't be copyrigthed, but directions to make a letter A out of collected cross stitches? copyrighteable!

patterns for garments? even something as simple as a scarf?
Use yarn X, with needles size y, cast on Z
knit every row till--(it is so long, or till you run out of yarn (use 1 ball, or 2 balls, or ...) bind off

that pattern can be copyrighted (and has been!)
change the yarn, change the needle size, change the number of stitches cast on, or the length, and you have a new pattern--

Toll House® Chocolate Morsel Cookies recipes-- (That use the registered trade marked brand of chocolate morsels.) can be copyrighted.

but chocolate chip cookies recipes? public domain!

(this subject comes up frequently on knitting BB's...)


Edited by of troy (10/10/07 01:01 PM)
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#170522 - 10/10/07 12:59 PM Re: Longest word without repeating a letter [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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copyWRITE?

Don't get copywrought about it ...

copyright :- 2.89M ghits
copywrite :- 692K ghits
copywright :- 623K ghits
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