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#168727 - 06/16/07 08:44 PM vip and vim
lachapakhan Offline
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i was wondering what you can tell me about the word "vip" ... not the
acronym VIP, but just vip.

i was playing scrabble, the other day, and i was challenged on the word vip.
none of our dictionaries and none of the online dictionaries had this word
listed, but i clearly remember the phrase "vip and vim" as a reference to
having a lot of energy and enthusiasm.

is "vip" a word or not? if so, why can't i find it? why is "vim" listed in
various dictionaries, but not "vip"?

my friends all said they were familiar with the phrase "vigor and vim", but
i have never heard that phrase, myself. am i living in a weird vip bubble of
some kind?

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#168728 - 06/16/07 09:30 PM Re: vip and vim [Re: lachapakhan]
polyglot Offline
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Well, I've never seen 'vip and vim'. I have seen 'vim and vigor'. I did a quick look through Google's OBSCURE WORDS, and I did not find the word 'vip' there either. I did a search for just the word 'vip'. I did not even find an entry in the 1913 version of Webster's Unabridged dictionary...

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#168731 - 06/16/07 10:09 PM Re: vip and vim [Re: polyglot]
lachapakhan Offline
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i did find usages of "vip and vim" when i searched for that string (quotes and all) in google ... i just didn't find any kind of definition or dictionary entries.

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#168733 - 06/16/07 10:42 PM Re: vip and vim [Re: lachapakhan]
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vim and vigor : 62,500 ghits

(the 10 hits for "Vip and Vim" mostly have to do with Voltage)

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#168739 - 06/17/07 07:40 AM Re: vip and vim [Re: tsuwm]
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Originally Posted By: tsuwm
vim and vigor : 62,500 ghits

(the 10 hits for "Vip and Vim" mostly have to do with Voltage)


Vip might could be peak input voltage and Vim could be mean input voltage, except it seems they aren't. In the voltage examples Vip is positive input voltage and Vim is negative(?!) input voltage. Maybe a typo. I get more hits for "vip and vin". About a 3 to 1 ratio not correcting for other meanings for "vip and vim".

Some of the other "vip and vim" hits it's really "VIP and vim" where VIP seems to be our old friend Very Important Person.

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#169050 - 07/07/07 05:16 AM Re: vip and vim [Re: lachapakhan]
lachapakhan Offline
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several of the google hits are unrelated to my question ... some of the relevant examples are:

http://harpist.typepad.com/twangtwangtwang/2007/01/index.html
http://weight-loss.fitness.com/156283-post1337.html
http://pitbullsrock.tribe.net/thread/12933124-17d0-4860-a1d5-f4ec37dbaabe

these links seem to be using things they way i would expect ...

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#169051 - 07/07/07 07:32 AM Re: vip and vim [Re: lachapakhan]
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Even though I'm much more familiar with the "vim and vigour" version, I have actually heard "vip and vim" used in this way. Not often, and not for a VERY lnog time, but I have a memory of from my childhood, which means it was likely from my Dad. His Anglo-Indian background and hill station boarding school education still throw up some usages and phrases that surprise me.
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#169056 - 07/07/07 11:37 AM Re: vip and vim [Re: sjmaxq]
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What is a hill station, please?

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#169057 - 07/07/07 12:09 PM Re: vip and vim [Re: Jackie]
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What is a hill station, please?

It's a town in the mountains that is cooler than the towns down on the plains mainly in India. Just last month I visited one, Udagamandalam, (or Ooty for short) while in South India.

Here's a list of them.
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#169062 - 07/07/07 01:47 PM Re: vip and vim [Re: zmjezhd]
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Whoa, you went to India? Cool! Yes, I've read about people there seeking the cool of the mountains in summer; but the word station made me wonder if they were some kind of fort.

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