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#168315 - 05/19/07 03:46 AM Penelope
BranShea Offline
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Penelope

While the chimpanzees, the Penelopes of the forest are faithful to their nature, there has been a Poet-Chansonnier, who in a song questioned , in a mild way, the thruthfulness of the Penelopes of mankind.
George Brassens ,spiritual heir to the Poètes Maudites dedicated a chanson to all Penelopes .

Georges Brassens

crude translation:

Pénélope ................ (Toi l' épouse modèle...)

You, exemplary spouse, sweet cricket by the hearth
You , with no tear or crease in your wedding gown
You, irreproachable Pénélope,
While you follow your good husband of happiness,
Did you never cradle, all in honor and virtue,
Some little suspect pretty thoughts?
Some little suspect pretty thoughts?

For three couplets the poet muses about the faithful wife's little doubts , to conclude in the last couplet:

Have no fear that heaven won't pardon you,
There's really not much here to punish your heart
for taking that little sideway 's flight.
It's a common forgivable little sin,
The hidden side of honeymoon's face,
And the ransom to be payed by Pénélope,
And the ransom to be payed by Pénélope.

(not in for making a long thread, but to sympathize with the chimpanzees )



Edited by BranShea (05/19/07 04:16 AM)

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#168317 - 05/19/07 09:13 AM Re: Penelope [Re: BranShea]
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Fine sentiment, good BranShea, but forget the chimpanzee, what about all the male Penelopes of the World. What dark secret drove this mild creature of the low grasslands to drag and rampage and bite?

Rotterdam Gorilla

The World wants to know.


Edited by themilum (05/19/07 09:17 AM)

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#168325 - 05/19/07 04:22 PM Re: Penelope [Re: themilum]
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The Silverback has an escape-history and may have been provoqued.
Here's just some facts. (Your panic report is pretty accurate)

The dark secret may be that as reports tell, a few minuted before he escaped he had been pestered by boys (any evolutionary explanation why not girls?) throwing little stones at him. The directly grabbed the woman who was (with her husband) a regular, almost daily visitor of the gorilla island.
"(he knew her)".And he panicked. He was was not an agressive animal and will not be treated as such.

Victim
The heavily wounded victim has been on the operation table till 01 AM today. The 57 year old woman is drugged to keep her in sleeping condition.
She has a shattered hand, a wrist fractured and a double armfracture. Her chest has been crushed.
According to her husband the woman who was dragged and attacked had a special bond (?) with the gorilla , Bokito. At the moment of the escape they were not looking his way. Her husband will be questioned (?). Bokito jumped the two yard water ditch and climbed out.
The 11 years old , 180 kilogram silver back had been raised by humans , since he was rejected by his mother and reacts to human contact.
Maybe he was provoqued. He jumped the 2-yard water ditch and climbed out.
He already escaped when he was still in the Berlin Zoo in 2004. Bokito will not be killed , but the gorilla island will be changed. Untill that's been done they will keep all gorilla's inside.

Escape page Bokito
This is a mish mash of image, video and text, all Dutch language sorry. The second, Flemish item may be best.
.


Edited by BranShea (05/20/07 09:29 AM)

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#168334 - 05/19/07 06:55 PM Re: Penelope [Re: BranShea]
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Then there was the gorilla in the Brookfield Zoo outside of Chicago that saved a 3 year old boy who had fallen into the gorilla exhibit.

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#168340 - 05/20/07 01:38 AM Re: Penelope [Re: Faldage]
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If you google Gorilla escape you will find a whole army of escaped Gorilla's all over the world. Gorilla's, unite!

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#168373 - 05/21/07 12:20 PM Re: Penelope [Re: BranShea]
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penelopes of the forest? To quote "Father Ted"'s Mrs. Doyle:
"Oh, guan! Guan!
Guan, guan, guanguanguanguanguanguanguaaan!"

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#168375 - 05/21/07 04:07 PM Re: Penelope [Re: Myridon]
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Confusing gorilla's with chimpanzees, Myrmidon ? Yeh, still funny.
" Penelopes of the forest" refers to chimpanzees.(See context part, last week's first word)

Wikipedia is a help for the ignorant guesser like me:

From some obscure 1990 's soap:
Hospitality, especially serving tea ("Ahh, go on! - Go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on...") is Mrs. Doyle's mission in life; other items served include a mountain of sandwiches which are discarded when she discovers they are not to her own taste.





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#168381 - 05/21/07 06:22 PM Re: Penelope [Re: BranShea]
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4 people including you talk about gorillas... I say nothing about gorillas, yet __I__ get accused of being confused about gorillas. What the hey?

While you're enjoying Wikipedia, look up guan.


Edited by Myridon (05/21/07 06:23 PM)

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#168388 - 05/22/07 12:14 PM Re: Penelope [Re: Myridon]
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Right, you were not confused about gorillas. I was confused
about a mrs. Doyle and a whole range of noisy guans. I found the obscure mrs. Doyle, and today (thank you!) the guan. Now there's all the components together to understand what your post really meant.
So here's to the Guans! And >>>you<<< And Mrs. Sandwich = = = Doyle.

[ Guan (bird)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Penelopina:
The guans are a number of bird genera which make up the largest group in the family Cracidae. They are found mainly in northern South America, southern Central America, and a few adjacent Caribbean islands.

[Genera and species are: O.K: genus Penelope and genus Penelopina ]no Penelope Penelopina. But fly birds ! Fly!


Edited by BranShea (05/24/07 03:45 AM)

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#168397 - 05/23/07 12:59 PM Re: Penelope [Re: BranShea]
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That's rather a random spot to break your quote isn't it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guan_%28bird%29 Most guans are genus Penelope.

The article I found first was (bold added by me):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penelope_%28genus%29
"Penelope is a bird genus in the Cracidae family consisting of a number of large turkey-like arboreal species, the typical guans."



Edited by Myridon (05/23/07 01:01 PM)

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