Wordsmith.org: the magic of words

Wordsmith Talk

About Us | What's New | Search | Site Map | Contact Us  

Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
#167178 - 03/24/07 11:43 PM Re: kibosh [Re: wwh]
pearliemay Offline
stranger

Registered: 09/12/06
Posts: 1
I'm new at this, but I remember seeing an explanation of the origin of 'kibosh' a long time ago, I don't remember where, but it seemed at the time to be a fairly respectable source. Their explanation was that, way back when, in a law court, if the judge was about to pronounce a sentence of death, he ceremonially laid a square of black linen over his wig before he spoke. This was in the British Isles, could have been Ireland, Scotland, Wales, or England itself. That square of black linen was called the 'kibosh' or death cap.
Regards, Pearliemay

Top
#167181 - 03/25/07 06:16 AM Re: kibosh [Re: pearliemay]
BranShea Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 5282
Loc: Netherlands, the Hague
Hi there!

On former page the links give already the informtion you asked for. Al anwers give no full clearity.

kibosh
1836, kye-bosk, in slang phrase put the kibosh on, of unknown origin, despite intense speculation. Looks Yiddish, but origin in early 19c. English slang seems to argue against this. One candidate is Ir. caip bháis, caipín báis "cap of death," sometimes said to be the black cap a judge would don when pronouncing a death sentence, but in other sources identified as a gruesome method of execution "employed by Brit. forces against 1798 insurgents" [Bernard Share, "Slanguage, A Dictionary of Irish Slang"]. Or it may somehow be connected with Turkish bosh (see bosh).

(from Online Ethymology Dictionary.)Don't ask me what Meta -words mean.

Top
#182638 - 02/15/09 12:00 PM Re: kibosh [Re: BranShea]
LukeJavan8 Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/23/08
Posts: 6513
Loc: Land of the Flat Water
here's a thread that looks dead. Re-enliven it, let's.
We say kye-bosh and the other day there was an old
British movie on a classical station in which the judge
put a black cloth over his wig. I wondered what that meant,
and now I have a fairly good idea,by reading this site.
It is amazing how much one can learn, we from each other.
Thanks for having me!
_________________________
----please, draw me a sheep----

Top
#183747 - 03/20/09 05:42 PM Zubenelgenubi [Re: BranShea]
LukeJavan8 Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/23/08
Posts: 6513
Loc: Land of the Flat Water
Originally Posted By: BranShea
Hi there!

On former page the links give already the informtion you asked for. Al anwers give no full clearity.

kibosh
1836, kye-bosk, in slang phrase put the kibosh on, of unknown origin, despite intense speculation. Looks Yiddish, but origin in early 19c. English slang seems to argue against this. One candidate is Ir. caip bháis, caipín báis "cap of death," sometimes said to be the black cap a judge would don when pronouncing a death sentence, but in other sources identified as a gruesome method of execution "employed by Brit. forces against 1798 insurgents" [Bernard Share, "Slanguage, A Dictionary of Irish Slang"]. Or it may somehow be connected with Turkish bosh (see bosh).

(from Online Ethymology Dictionary.)
Quote:
Don't ask me what Meta -words mean.


I'm not sure what a 'meta word' is either, but ZUBENELGENUBI, might be one.
Accents on the ben and nu syllables: it is a star in the constellation Libra.


Edited by LukeJavan8 (03/20/09 05:43 PM)
_________________________
----please, draw me a sheep----

Top
#183764 - 03/21/09 09:17 AM Re: Zubenelgenubi [Re: LukeJavan8]
BranShea Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 5282
Loc: Netherlands, the Hague
There is only one online dictionary entry, Google gives a lot.
Main Entry: meta-word
Part of Speech: n
Definition: a word describing another word; by extension, a word in a computer program that means something other than its literal meaning, esp. that is part of the programming language
Webster's New Millennium™ Dictionary of English, Preview Edition (v 0.9.7)
Copyright © 2003-2009 Dictionary.com, LLC
Cite This Source

Zubenelgenubi Nice star

Top
#183765 - 03/21/09 09:32 AM Re: Zubenelgenubi [Re: BranShea]
Buffalo Shrdlu Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/24/02
Posts: 7210
Loc: Vermont
> ZUBENELGENUBI

Obi-Wan Kenobi's cousin?
_________________________
formerly known as etaoin...

Top
#183767 - 03/21/09 09:40 AM Re: Zubenelgenubi [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
BranShea Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 5282
Loc: Netherlands, the Hague
You'll never be the true astronomer neither. Sigh.
But you can sing.

Top
#183770 - 03/21/09 10:11 AM Re: Zubenelgenubi [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
zmjezhd Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/13/05
Posts: 3290
Loc: R'lyeh
ZUBENELGENUBI

Interesting word. It's from Arabic, as are many astronomical terms. There are two other stars in Libra that begin with zuben (< Arabic al-zuban 'the claw').
  • alpha Librae, Zubenelgenubi 'southern claw' (< al-zuban al-janubiyy)
  • beta Librae, Zubeneschamali 'northern claw' (< al-zuban al-shamaliyyah)
  • gamma Librae, Zubenelakrab 'scorpion's claw' (< al-zuban al-aqrab)


[Addendum: Arabic janub 'south' < janaba 'to turn aside' is cognate with Hebrew ganebh 'to steal' and Yiddish ganef 'thief' (link)]


Edited by zmjezhd (03/21/09 10:22 AM)
_________________________
Ceci n'est pas un seing.

Top
#183782 - 03/21/09 01:58 PM Re: Zubenelgenubi [Re: zmjezhd]
BranShea Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 5282
Loc: Netherlands, the Hague
If you click 'stars' in that site you can see that half of Arabia is in the sky. Wonderful site . stars

Top
#183783 - 03/21/09 01:58 PM Re: Zubenelgenubi [Re: BranShea]
Buffalo Shrdlu Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 06/24/02
Posts: 7210
Loc: Vermont
Originally Posted By: BranShea
You'll never be the true astronomer neither. Sigh.
But you can sing.


what? Star Wars ain't true astronomy?


but thanks! :¬ )
_________________________
formerly known as etaoin...

Top
Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 >

Moderator:  Jackie 
Forum Stats
8740 Members
16 Forums
13807 Topics
215220 Posts

Max Online: 3341 @ 12/09/11 02:15 PM
Newest Members
auster, ozyildirimeda, KatieC, ashishsum, ackcat
8740 Registered Users
Who's Online
1 registered (wofahulicodoc), 37 Guests and 7 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Top Posters (30 Days)
endymion6 84
LukeJavan8 76
wofahulicodoc 64
A C Bowden 33
May 4
FoFong 3
Tromboniator 3
TitoMatito 2
tsuwm 2
LadyReader 2
Top Posters
wwh 13858
Faldage 13803
Jackie 11609
tsuwm 10523
Buffalo Shrdlu 7210
LukeJavan8 6512
AnnaStrophic 6511
Wordwind 6296
of troy 5400
BranShea 5282

Disclaimer: Wordsmith.org is not responsible for views expressed on this site. Use of this forum is at your own risk and liability - you agree to hold Wordsmith.org and its associates harmless as a condition of using it.

Home | Today's Word | Yesterday's Word | Subscribe | FAQ | Archives | Search | Feedback
Wordsmith Talk | Wordsmith Chat

© 2014 Wordsmith