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But they can change with or without notice. It amounts to the same thing as no rules - I beg to disagree. Quite on the contrary, changeable rules expose you to increased risk of transgressing them.
Recently, I read an article about adaptable/evolving fundamental laws and fundamental "constants" in physics. While this leaves me somwhat uneasy, it is not the same as anomy.
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Yet, "nobody can question the mask"? Hmmm.
I'd imagine: once the rule is made that changes the initial rule that says anyone can make up new rules and or overturn current rules the game ends... or at the very least, it gets really quiet.
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There is a difference b/w a rule and a purpose. You can't have a game without a purpose, but you can have a game without rules. For example, in high school my friends and I played a game where the goal was to get the ball into a net, but you could do anything to get it there. It was a lot of fun.
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A Hearty welcome i8beets. That sounds like fun... was there offence and defense in this game?
I like 'em pickled myself. Beets that is.
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So the only defining characteristic of "game" is its "end"? Shirley anything else is just a subset.
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Ooo, I don't know about that game really having no rules i8beets. If you played it in high-school, I'm sure the one unwritten-unspoken rule you all had to live with was, "don't do anything that'll get Mum mad" so no tearing of clothes, no gouging of eyes... Don't do anything that'll get Mum mad, seems to be a pretty common rule for everything.  ======================= Oh, and aye, beets are terrific when pickled.
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And all games within this human sphere are tempered by human law and morality. You couldn't and wouldn't knife your buddies to get the ball into the net, for example.
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Ah--now we are in the realm of written vs. unwritten rules; or in beets' case perhaps, stated vs. unstated. I would venture to say that one of their unstated rules was that you don't kill your opponents so you can score!
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Do consequences count as rules, though? Consider an example: Fierce, all-out mêlée. Suppose someone suddenly becomes a hippie right in the middle of the battle. Of course, his head will be chopped off, but is that really a rule? His torso could be stabbed, for instance, also, or he could be unharmed because the fighting was so intense. Is a consequence without specific punishment really a rule?
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This discussion reminds me of a movie I saw, "Murderball", in which the players were all quadriplegics, who played a version of wheelchair rugby, with the goal of trying to get the ball into the net. The moves and consequences were shocking to a naive audience, and the players went literally all-out. http://imdb.com/title/tt0436613/
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