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#163926 - 12/25/06 09:57 PM Re: Je Est un Autre
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Awwww. Here I get busy with work for a couple, or nine , weeks and you discussed a subject that I could have had an authoritative answer for, and y'all get on positively well without needing me at all - with accents and everything no less.


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#163927 - 12/26/06 03:52 PM Too good to leave unremarked
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Mots d'Heures, Gousses, Rhames by Luis d'Antin van Rooten.

Un petit d'un petit
S'étonne au hall
Un petit d'un petit
Ah! degrés de folles
Un dol de qui ne sort cesse
Un dol de qui ne se mène
Qu'importe un petit d'un petit
Tout Gai de Reguennes.



C'mon, all you punsters, where are you?!

It's been done in German, too - see this little volume of Morder-Guss-Reims by Leberwurst

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#163928 - 12/26/06 04:57 PM Humpty and Dumpty
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A machine translation

A small one of a small one
ASTONISHES ITSELF to the lobby
A small one of a small one
Ah! degrees of crazy ones
A dol of that does not go out stops
A dol of that does not take itself, That
Imports a small one of a small one
All Cheerful one of Reguennes.


Yes, now it all makes perfect sense.

"AH yes! The degrees of crazy ones."

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#163929 - 12/26/06 06:31 PM Re: Humpty and Dumpty
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Yes, now it all makes perfect sense.




Ah, those crazy French.

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#163930 - 12/28/06 12:24 PM Re: Humpty and Dumpty
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Yes, now it all makes perfect sense.




Ah, those crazy French.



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#163931 - 12/28/06 01:34 PM Re: Je Est un Autre
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"I is Another"

Maybe it is a psychological aberration, like the polar opposite of solipsism.
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#163932 - 12/28/06 09:44 PM Re: Humpty and Dumpty
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Ah, those crazy French.




Heyy!!!

Um.

Well.

O.k., maybe we're a little coo-coo puffs.


Edited by belMarduk (12/28/06 09:45 PM)

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#192515 - 08/14/10 06:09 PM Re: Je Est un Autre [Re: Hydra]
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It is actually used in Biblical French, it is often the way that Christ is represented as
"The I AM." Veiled religious themes come out in Rimbaud's work here and there.

The Je-Est is a reference to the Luciferean Christ of mythology, the trickster, the clown Loki,
and in a way a bridge between west and near-east religious symbols. A Lucky-Fire is in
Islamic astrology Alligafir - or Venus. Venus is the "morning star" and Christ is known to have said "Yea Verily I am the Morning Star" The clown is in many languages a pun on Crown, and kingship - and is the quality of this character, this Clown - known to us as Bozo.

In the Turkish language Bozo means I Am.

Oddly the question asked of Lucifer in the Bible is "How art thou fallen O Star of the Morning?"

This revelation really changes the nature of the father-son relationship we are all so familiar with.

For an even more paranoid look into Je Est Un Autre - there is a much longer version of it
going around the Usenet, posted by MadCap - it is an Mp3 - sounds a bit like Durrell, it been put to music. Searching the lyrics got me here. There is a reference in that version saying bluntly that Shelley (and Byron) were murdered. Did Dr. Polidori fix them too stiffly?

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#192517 - 08/14/10 08:46 PM Re: Je Est un Autre [Re: BoZo]
LukeJavan8 Online   sleepy
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Tho' you found a really old thread to cling on to, or add to,
welcome nonetheless.
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#192520 - 08/14/10 08:54 PM Re: Je Est un Autre [Re: BoZo]
zmjezhd Offline
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In the Turkish language Bozo means I Am.

I don't think so. The copula in Turkish is olmak 'to be', but it doesn't show up in the present indicative. One way to say 'I am' in Turkish is ben 'I'.

As for biblical French, do you have a particular translation in mind, and if so, could you cite some chapter and verse?
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