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#163906 - 11/30/06 11:40 PM Je Est un Autre
Hydra addict Registered: 08/02/06 Posts: 631	Quote: Je Est un Autre Can anyone translate this for me? Doesn't it mean "I (The Self?) is an Other"? From Rimbaud.
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#163907 - 12/01/06 05:50 AM Re: Je Est un Autre
Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 13654	That's what it looks like to this Foremost Fumbler of French. there are certainly others here better suited than I to offer you edification.
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#163908 - 12/01/06 12:51 PM Re: Je Est un Autre
dalehileman Pooh-Bah Registered: 07/10/05 Posts: 1773 Loc: Apple Valley, CA, USA	Translation: But I'm just Gene Autry Forgive _________________________ dalehileman
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#163909 - 12/01/06 01:53 PM Re: Je Est un Autre
AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Registered: 03/15/00 Posts: 6511 Loc: lower upstate New York	Hydra, when I saw your subject line, before reading your post, I also thought of Gene Autry! There's a set of nursery rhymes, written in faux French (or is it Latin?) but when read aloud sounds like English -- anybody know what I'm talking about?
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#163910 - 12/01/06 02:12 PM Re: Je Est un Autre
ParkinT enthusiast Registered: 10/30/06 Posts: 293 Loc: Orlando	Hydra, From High-School French and a few trips abroad I agree that the literal translation is: I am the (an) other. According to BabelFish , it is "I Is another"* Dalehileman; Thanks for the laugh-out-loud Although, according to French rules of Grammar, the "e" in "Je" must be dropped. The proper way to say, "I am" in French is "J'est". Edited by ParkinT (12/02/06 09:47 AM)* _________________________ "I am certain there is too much certainty in the world" -Michael Crichton
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#163911 - 12/01/06 03:00 PM Re: Je Est un Autre
zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Registered: 08/13/05 Posts: 3269 Loc: R'lyeh	Mots d'Heures, Gousses, Rhames by Luis d'Antin van Rooten. Un petit d'un petit S'étonne au hall Un petit d'un petit Ah! degrés de folles Un dol de qui ne sort cesse Un dol de qui ne se mène Qu'importe un petit d'un petit Tout Gai de Reguennes. _________________________ Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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#163912 - 12/01/06 07:52 PM Re: Je Est un Autre
Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 13654	Quote: Hydra, From High-School French and a few trips abroad I agree that the literal translation is: I am the (an) other. According to BabelFish , it is "I Is another" I am an other would be je suis un autre. This has got to be a usage of Je for something like Freud's Ego (das Ich).
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#163913 - 12/02/06 09:50 AM Re: Je Est un Autre
ParkinT enthusiast Registered: 10/30/06 Posts: 293 Loc: Orlando	Quote: Quote: Hydra, From High-School French and a few trips abroad I agree that the literal translation is: I am the (an) other. According to BabelFish , it is "I Is another" I am an other would be je suis un autre. This has got to be a usage of Je for something like Freud's Ego (das Ich). I disagree. The verb "suis" means "to have", does it not? It is proper in French to state your age by saying, "Je suis douze ans" (I have 12 years). But, the French verb 'etre' (to be) is conjucated as Je est (and properly becomes J'est). _________________________ "I am certain there is too much certainty in the world" -Michael Crichton
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#163914 - 12/02/06 10:08 AM Re: Je Est un Autre
zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Registered: 08/13/05 Posts: 3269 Loc: R'lyeh	The verb "suis" means "to have", does it not? You might want to consult a French grammar. The verb être 'to be' is conjugated in the present indicative: je suis tu es il est nous sommes vous êtes ils sont The verb avoir 'to have' is in the present indicative: j'ai tu as il a nous avons vous avez ils ont _________________________ Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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#163915 - 12/02/06 12:47 PM Re: Je Est un Autre
pennyless journeyman Registered: 11/12/06 Posts: 74 Loc: Sandy, Utah	What is the context of this text? If it is from an old French text, then "je est" might be grammatically correct (modern usage is "je suis"). If it is a philosophy text, then some of the abovementioned translations might be more likely. BTW, the translation for "I am 12 years old" (J'ai douze ans) does indeed literally mean "I have 12 years"; but the verb for have is avoir.
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