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I think that I shall never speak as if a poet were a geek it's only ignorance I fear of what we could be speaking here  - yet hold no grudge against a beer
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Quote:
I think that I shall never speak
as if a poet were a geek
it's only ignorance I fear
of what we could be speaking here
- yet hold no grudge against a beer
And neither do I, BranShe, I hold no grudge against any man's beer but I do think that desecration of high poetry is...uh, desecration.
Take, for example, this simple, yet moving and thought provoking, poem by Robert Frost...
Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening
Whose woods these are I think I know.
His house is in the village, though;
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow.
My little horse must think it's queer
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year.
He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there's some mistake.
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark, and clear,
But I have promises to keep,
And only Schlitz can make a beer,
And only Schlitz can make a beer.
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Notice how the repetition of the last line evokes empathy among like minded readers and gives the poem a surprising end.
No! Some poems are sacred and should not be abused by Awad posters for the sake of a simple joke. 
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"...nobody, not even the rain, has such small hands"
e e cummings
"...:The third miracle made red and green
:The fourth miracle made God duck
:A torpedoed cathedral sinks rapidly into the earth..."
from Musrum by Eric Thacker and Anthony Earnshaw.
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And say, Bel and BranShe, in Poe's day he was highly regarded in France; moreso than in the United States. It was said that the French translations of THE BELLS and THE RAVEN were vastly superior to the English originals by Poe.
How could this be? Poe's genius is predicated on the poetic union of meter, sense, and rhyme. Were the French translations acts of genius by the translators as well?
Well? Curious minds want to know.]
Paul Verlaine, one of the Poe admiring ' Počtes Maudites' (cursed poets) titled one of his poems "Never More". Nevermore from the Raven split into two words. But clearly
under the infuence of Poe.
There may be several reasons why E.A.Poe has been mostly ignored in his own country. One : he lived and worked in France and England and died young.
Two: : his political and moral ideas may have been offensive to the still young American nation. The idea of a Monarchy in those days may not yet have been as far fetched as it is today.
Three he was proud and poor. ( A more elaborate answer can be found at Miscellany)
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(POLONIUS: My lord, I will use them according to their desert.)
HAMLET: God's bodikin, man, much better. Use every man after his desert, and who shall 'scape whipping? Use them after your own honour and dignity: the less they deserve, the more merit is in your bounty.
Hamlet, Act II, scene ii
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Just heard this song on Sirius "country favorites" radio. Must have missed it the first time around. No matter, I will now add it to my list of favorite country songlines. As sung by Garth Brooks... Hello operator, trace this call and send a taxi
I'm somewhere drinking but I'm not drinking alone
I've been beside myself ever since she's been gone.
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As sung by Garth Brooks...
not drinking alone.....
I've been beside myself ever since she's been gone.
It took me about a day to see the dubble meaning of this line.
(and I once thought I was smart ....)
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How curious, i never thought of poe not being respected in US. He lived various places here, one was the then town of Fordham, (now a neighborhood in the Bronx)
the cottage he rented when he lived there still stands, it was moved a few hundred yards, and a park created around it (poe park) when i was a teen, the apartment building we lived in had a plaque on it, about poe (the apartment building occupied the original location of Poe's cottage.
(Bob Young who used to post here, lives in baltimore, close to St Elizabeth's hospital, (where there is plaque noting Poe died there, and Richmond Va has a professional sport team (football?) called The Raven's (named in part to commemorate Poe.) He might not have been appreciated in his own time, but his short stories are part of most HS reading lists and his poems are regularly included in anthologoies.
not just the raven, but annabelle lee, and for helen, (that i can think of off the top of my head!)
simon and garfunkle set annebelle lee to music (and included it on one of their early ablums, too)
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Dear Helen, that is really nice news to wake up to. I knew less about his life in America . And I love to know he did one one for you special and a sportsclub named after him. And that little park. Nice to know you live where he lived! l'll go through my old records to see if I can find that song. And through his American past! Thanks a big lot!!! Thank God the bath has an overflow protection or else the hallway would have been flooded by now.;-)
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Thank God the bath has an overflow protection or else the hallway would have been flooded by now.;-)  I didn't realize, Branny, that you had apparently thought Poe still wasn't appreciated here. (Isn't it so often true, though, that people aren't, at the time? Think of Beethoven and van Gogh.) But Poe had sure made it to fame by the time MY lifetime began. We studied him in school, and even today quotes from his works are used in everyday society.
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