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While it doesn't involve a definite article, foreign phrases are often misused when incorporated into English. A sign at the cafeteria recently comes to mind - "French Dip with Au Jus Sauce", or literally, "French Dip with with juice sauce"
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Welcome, Michael, to the wonderful world of AWAD. There is ALWAYS room for another Seattlite on this board.
You will be perhaps envious to know that, this week, I have seen nene (Hawaiian geese) from two feet away, red-footed boobies in numbers too large to count, and the almost-ready-to-fledge offspring of wedge-tailed shearwaters in their little mud holes. There is a national bird sanctuary on the Island of Kauai where we saw these wonderful sights and more.
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Y'all still next door to drowning, out there? I've heard bad reports about the NW getting rain, rain, and more rain.
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Also brought to you from the Department of Redundancy Department are such phrases as "PIN number" (Personal Identification Number number), "VIN number" (Vehicle Identification Number number), and Please RSVP, which translates to "Please respond, please."
Very truly yours,
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Merci beaucoup for posting, Sherry, and thank you.
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Also brought to you from the Department of Redundancy Department are such phrases as "PIN number" (Personal Identification Number number), "VIN number" (Vehicle Identification Number number), and Please RSVP, which translates to "Please respond, please."
Very truly yours,
Sherry
Someone correct me if I am wrong: is not "Pizza Pie" a redundancy?
"Pizza" is defined as a tomato pie, correct?
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Pizza to my knowledge, is just pie, pizza rustica (an easter specialty) is rustic or country pie..
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Thanks, of troy.
That confirms my belief, then, that "pizza pie" is a redundancy.
However, should it not be "tomato pizza"? Or "italian pizza"?
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Pizza, allright. Any which way , but what exactly is French Dip with juice sauce??????In good American, what is it?
(substance ,colour, texture,ingredients.) It sounds.....swampy
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French Dip is a roast beef sandwich in a long bun (hard or soft, or somewhere-in-between...), dipped in the juice of the roast. an even better linkand, apparently, the Originalyum.
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Very interesting , French Philip's Dip. So there's not only hope but even a chance on glory for a drowning sandwich. On the West Coast of America. With juice sauce.\______________/. Plate Empty
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>>"Pizza Pie"<< Haven't heard "pie" appended to "pizza" around here in years! Do people still use the phrase? 
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When the moon hits the sky
like a big pizza pie
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If it's something like a blend of pizza and pumpkin pie it'd better stay up there.
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Quote:
When the moon hits the sky
like a big pizza pie
Nit: When the moon hits your eye
... and, please, no eel jokes.
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Lost in translation and in understanding, could you tell me seriously then what is an eel joke? Is n't an eel a fish and what has eel to do with a joke?
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Drat - hoist with my own petard!
The song is "That's Amore".
If I were to point to an eel of the family Muraenidae, I would say "That's a moray".
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Here's to you beating TEd to the punch, Myr [raising goblet-clink-e]
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Now that is clever.  Sherry, thanks for the vindication! See all? More than one poster seems appalled by empty-headedness. It only makes it worse when an ostensibly smart investigator on television spouts something like "OCD disorder". 
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Drat - hoist with my own petard!
The song is "That's Amore".
If I were to point to an eel of the family Muraenidae, I would
say "That's a moray".
This clears things up, the first line is an eel joke if I got my French right and the second a hypothetic declaration of love to a Murena, no? I know that song. Strange metaphor.
The moon hittng your eye like a big pizza pie.  Not exactly the avarage poetry.
Wasn't it Frank Sinatra who sang that?
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When the moon hits your eye,
Like a big pizza pie,
That's amore.
When an eel bites your hand,
And that's not what you planned,
That's a moray.
When our habits are strange,
And our customs deranged,
That's our mores.
When your horse munches straw,
And the bales total four,
That's some more hay.
When Othello's poor wife,
Becomes stabbed with a knife,
That's a Moor, eh?
When a Japanese knight,
Uses his sword in a fight,
That's Samurai.
When your sheep go to graze,
In a damp marshy place,
That's a moor, eh?
When your boat comes home fine,
And you tie up her line,
That's a moor, eh?
When you ace your last tests,
Like you did all the rest,
That's some more "A"s!
When on Mt. Cook you see,
An aborigine,
That's a Maori.
Alley Oop's homeland has,
A space gun with pizzazz,
That's a Moo ray...
A comedian ham,
With the name Amsterdam,
That's a Morey.
When your chocolate graham,
Is so full and so crammed,
That smore, eh.
When you've had quite enough,
Of this dumb rhyming stuff,
That's "No more!", eh?
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It was Dean Martin I think. The poetry sounds better when you sing it slightly tipsily. Or listen that way either.
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All I can do is laugh ,applaude, bow to and admire : all of you people. That's Amore!
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Aw, Myr. TEd saw your pun and raised you. I think I saw that coming...  And yes, Zed, that was Dean Martin(i).
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Yes, exactly what I was hoping to prevent.
In my blender with ease
I visualize some whirled peas
That's a frappe!
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I suppose. If any of it had been original.
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I vote for: Carrot roots a la Frappe of blended peas with mixed champignon's juice sauce.
BTW. The post printing function is not responding. Is this my computer or maybe a general problem? (thanks if anyone could let me know)
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Where's Michael? Perhaps off looking for birds, between rain storms, eh?
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Speaking of Arabic, the "l" in "lute" is a remnant of the "al" in the Arabic name "al-oud".
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But I promise, back to the start of this thread, if according to plans I will be on the West Coast next summer, I will certainly ask for the French Dip and enjoy it and see if I can find a real pizza pie on the menue.
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a recommendation: look for Chicago-style deep dish pizza pie!
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