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Hullo, folks!

I'm not quite sure I understand the difference between democracy and republic. Can anyone help me there?

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Hullo, folks!

I'm not quite sure I understand the difference between democracy and republic. Can anyone help me there?

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Now gob, you must tell us your age and of the extent of your familiarity with the ideas of Western Culture if you need a worthwhile response to your question.

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I thought I knew the answer until I tried to write something.
At any rate Welcome to the board gg.

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As I understand it,a true democracy is one in which all the common folk participate in legislation as in ancient Greece, while a republic is one in which elected reps perform the function

In California we have a sort of the former called the "ballot proposition". Special interests formulate an involute and complex prop favorable to their own economic security or partisan agenda, wording it in such a way that the hoi polloi (me) can't make a rational choice without a detailed understanding of its political implications


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difference between democracy and republic
You can't define a "difference" between two terms which refer to different levels of understanding or looking at reality.
As far as I know, "republic" is defined on a formal, organisational level, while "democracy" is a value-laden political ideal.

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A Republic is a state that is not ruled by a monarch, but by group of people who are citizens, voted in via some process. Article IV, section 4 of the US Constitution guarantees to every State of the Union a Republican form of government. This means, I think, 1) there will be no monarch, and 2) the leaders are themselves ordinary citizens (and therefore subject to the same laws as every other citizen), and 3) that the leaders are selected by the people.

A Democracy is a government formed by election of the citizens. In ancient greece, not everyone was a citizen. Slaves were not citizens. I do not believe that women were full citizens. While the ancient greeks pioneered democracy, and their government is recognizable as democratic today, it was not democratic in the way that our government is democratic.

1. As we did originally, so they had slaves.
2. Their democracy was direct, while ours is representative. With the exceptions of referenda in localities, we don't vote on issues. We elect representatives who vote on the issues. We don't vote for a president. We vote for seats in the electoral college.
3. The ancient Greeks had a powerful mechanism for protecting their democracy from the undue influence of entrenched power. (Look up the etymology of the word "ostricize," for example.)

Democracy and Republic are neither mutually exclusive, nor entirely synonymous. They are complementary.

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difference between democracy and republic
You can't define a "difference" between two terms which refer to different levels of understanding or looking at reality.
As far as I know, "republic" is defined on a formal, organisational level, while "democracy" is a value-laden political ideal.




Your point is well taken, wsieber, but a republic is a collection of smaller self governing spatial population units that vote democratically for mutual well being and security.

While in a true democracy the voting and governing is usually universal and direct.


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