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Guess what?
I just found out that we can write in colors that aren't on the chart! This has been written in teal, turqoise, silver, and magenta. Not sure what others will come up. Lime green won't.
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Guess what?
I just found out that we can write in colors that aren't on the chart! This has been written in teal, turqoise, silver, and magenta. Not sure what others will come up. Lime green won't.
Are teal, and turquoise different colors? And what color is this?
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> Are teal, and turquoise different colors?
they are on my computer.
as to the other color, hmm. light-brown yellowish orange?
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Guess what?
I just found out that we can write in colors that aren't on the chart! This has been written in teal, turqoise, silver, and magenta. Not sure what others will come up. Lime green won't.
Are teal, and turquoise different colors? And what color is this?
Innernesting. Teal and turquoise are different when I do them but I don't see a difference in Jackie's text.
Edit: Never mind. Operator malfunction.
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There are at least 124 Unix color names (not all browsers will display all of these though.
darkmagenta
aliceblue aliceblue is too pale on white but it's one of my favorites.
salmon
lawngreen
orchid
etc.
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nice, Myr. you have an link to the color names? might be a pleasant diversion...
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hey! she's B, I'm A, OK R? 
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A-OK, Roger and out!
This is so cool!
I'd been wondering what that little question mark was for! Finally decided to take it literally.
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> hey! she's B, I'm A, OK R?
sorry, A! I mean, yeah, A. and thanks, B. or is that E? B?
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>>>I'd been wondering what that little question mark was for! Finally decided to take it literally.
Kind-of like turning left when you've always turned right. Sometimes you find the nicest things.
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gold
mediumspringgreen
mediumseagreen
skyblue
steelblue
powderblue
yellowgreen
darkgoldenrod
cadetblue
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Ooh, I like mediumspringgreen, but it's just a little too light to read easily. HEY! Alex, how'd you get that lovely color?? I typed in mediumspringgreen, and it came out red! 
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Mediumspringgreen has a built in warning system to detect University of Louisille fans.
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!!!!!! OOH! Squawk! Splutter! I'll have you know, sir, that if it comes into my awareness that UK is playing, I hope they win... unless they're playing UofL.
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> and it came out red
looks mediumspringgreen to me...
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FWIW, Alex's and eta's are the same shade to me; Jackie's is a little -- er -- greener. Certainly not red. Guess it depends on the browser, huh?
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hmm. I don't see how there could be any difference, unless the forum look you're using does the rows in different shades...
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Perhaps it depends on the style sheet (skin) you have selected in your preferences. The style sheet certainly affects the readability of certain colors.
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I thought I said that!
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Oops I didn't mean to chop your liver there. I'm a little tired from work.
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>>don't see how there could be any difference<< Ya wouldn't think so, but Jackie's post was definitely red on my screen at work and here at home it's medium spring green 
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Weird. That's probably what happened to Faldage up top, too. I'm using the Green Day color scheme (I never have liked that word skin.). I tried default and mediumspringgreen is still red.
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What happened to Faldage up top was he didn't notice that the first line was part of the color scheme.
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Okay, but you didn't have to confess that!
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Uh Jackie you did click on edit to double check that the color name inside the brackets is correct, right? i.e. you typed <color:mediumspringgreen> mediumspringgreen </color>
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Stupid crossword... how can "coral" mean "soft pink"? I mean, coral (reefs?) vary in colour. And, no definition in my dictionary conforms to pink nohow! just stupid...stupid crossword... right? they got it wrong... I should complain. I should.
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Remain clam, Loggie. It is all about the need for new and fetching names for lipstick.
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mediumspringgreen Better than typed: copied and pasted, first into the color box, then in between the sets of brackets.
I should note, however, that it is all but impossible to insult my intelligence where anything re: computers is said.
SQUAWK! Now, it IS medium spring green! ??? I musta done something wrong the first time. Thanks, Alex.
Edit: Logwood, coral is a kind of orangey-pink.
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Aha--I decided to take a look at my first mediumspringgreen post using the edit function, and discovered that that phrase had quotation marks around it, and even a space in front of the closing one; dunno how they got there, but I'll bet that's the problem.
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..and different browsers appear to deal with these extraneous characters differently. I have both IE and firefox open to your post right now; firefox is definitely greenish and IE is real red.
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Jackie's mediumspringgreen is the only red one of the bunch that I see. Must not be ripe yet.
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Why? Can't you believe what your eyes see? Look HERE , then.
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What do you do? Add up the wavelengths and divide?
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In her original post with the red mediumspringgreen Jackie inadvertently put a space at the end of "mediumspringgreen " and that's what gave her the red. At first I thought it might have interpreted the first three characters as ascii codes but that gives us a grey. It's not the last three characters, either. That gives us a sickly green.
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tsuwm + Fald = the right of it.
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I need a cross between this and this to get a Spartan green.
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How do you make a Spartan green?
Prove to him the Wolverines had a better recruiting season.
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What does it take to be Spartan Green? You can fool around with hex numbers of the form #rrggbb in place of the stock color name. That green up there is 408040.
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First of all, I'm new here and feel a total stranger in this playground.It'll take a while to adjust. But beeing a painter the word color immediately rings a bell and I want to put in a first careful comment. I would like to add that in different disciplines the names of colors differ too. The printer's names are not the same as the painter's names. In fashion and interieur design the range of color's differ too. Maybe it is not of great matter in this topic , but it's true that I wonder about the names of the computerprinting colors. Exept for magenta so much is different.
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Welcome, BranS. (hi, Connie!  ) I'm going to let boronia know you're here: she visited The Hague not too long ago, and loved it. You said in different disciplines the names of colors differ too. In what way(s), please? Names of tints, shades, or hues? Surely the basics remain the same: blue is blue, etc.?
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i am facinated by color.
there was (back in 1987 or so) a book written about color and how human eyes see color. some things take their color because of the arraingement of the atoms in the crystals (gems) and chrome come to mind (chrome, in it various salts, will appear green, yellow or red!)
i have a pantone book of colors, its a nice standard for reference. (Pantone is primarily a printers color guide) but many fashion items are referenced with pantone color names and numbers. (my apartment is painted with custom colored paints, using the pantone swatches).
i don't always bother to use color text, but color figures in every other way in my life.
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The following is a fun book to read for word folks: Berlin, B. and Kay, P. (1969) Basic Color Terms: Their Universality and Evolution. Still available used or at your library.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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When I was a product manager for a patio furniture manufacturer, we used Pantone books when talking to textile manufacturers. That way, when we described what colours to make the textile that cover the chairs and umbrellas everybody was on the same page.
The same held true when we chose the paint colours for the furniture.
Once the set was finished though, we used "marketing" colours on the product packaging that went to retail; Desert Oasis, Sunset Gold, Ocean Waves.
You need to create a "ooo, I have to have that" when creating the retail package.
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Welcome, BranS. (hi, Connie! ) I'm going to let boronia know you're here: she visited The Hague not too long ago, and loved it.
You said in different disciplines the names of colors differ too. In what way(s), please? Names of tints, shades, or hues? Surely the basics remain the same: blue is blue, etc.?
Thanks for welcoming me , Jackie.
Yes there is a good variety in reds , yellows and blues.
reds":Cadmium reds, vermilion, red madder, crimson, english red.
yellows:cadmium yellows, indian yellow , gombadge, Napels yellow.
blues: ultramarine, ceruleum, cobalt blue, indigo, prussian blue.
greens: viridan, sapgreen,hookers green, green earth.
browns: raw and burnt siena, raw and burnt umber,yellow, gold and red ochre(all earth pigments).
lamp black and titan white and chines white.
The names of these colors mostly come from minaral, vegetable or animal ingredients,not from associations. No sky blue or spring green in a tube. No daffodil yellow.No lobster red.
But this color association game is amusing. What's in a color's name after all?
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Once I started watercolor painting I saw or at least noticed more colors than previously. I also started to describe them, at least to myself, by tube names. The sky became a thin wash of ultramarine shifting gradually to cerulean until, near the horizon, it was overlaid with a wash of lemon yellow (one of the only descriptive names) so that there was a touch of almost green as the sunset started.
Sadly it seldom looked like that on the paper. sigh
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it was overlaid with a wash of lemon yellow (one of the only descriptive names) so that there was a touch of almost green as the sunset started.
Ah! The famous green last beam at sunset!
Funny thing you mention the lemon yellow. Yes, it is the only color with a descriptive name and the only kind of yellow I always advise my students notto use on lemons. A good mixing color though and in lemons tolarable if combined with a fair amount of other components.
Standard remark : 'No,a lemon is not cadmiun yellow/lemon!'
Professional deformation: Before I give a color or shade a name (if at all) I always consider what color components they are made of.
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Cerulean isn't a descriptive name?
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Puce is wonderfully descriptive name (tho not one found on tubes of paints!)
puce is the color of a flea belly, after it has engorged itself and is full of blood. its a lovely taupe/red/brown color that defies descriptions--except at puce!
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Puce is wonderfully descriptive name.
of troy.
Not on tubes, but is it used as a real color name in some field of action?
The description makes me want to see it. The road to take: get flea, let it feed on your blood, magnifying glass at hand,freeze it by hypnotising it for a good close look? Do you pronounce it the french or the english way? Sorry, this subject really is a never ending story to me.Really love it.
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Cerulean isn't a descriptive name?
Sorry, I still have trouble to find my way back to the forum and missed your reaction. What does cerulean mean in english? I know it in our language as ceruleum with an M and exept that it sounds very old latin-like to me I would not know what it means in a descriptive way. Hope you could tell me. Do you know what it means in latin?
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do you have access to a pantone color set or book?
it is color 19-1518
is in the same shades as sesame, (tint), henna (the color of the roots/plant material,) rootbeer & cinnamon)all of these browns have a redish undertone.
its a very warm (redish) shade, that is very flattering to most skin tones.
its certainly used in fashion (at times) (fabrics, yarns, trims) --the term puce came up just about a month ago, at one of my knitting groups. the person who was knitting descriped her yarn as puce, and described the source of the name, i arrived a few minutes later, and was asked to define puce, (and gave the same description, and pointed out the yarn being used (as puce.)-no one else in the group knew the color by name, or the source of the name of the color. (but they were all certain i would know)
i say to rhyme with RUSE (a desception) Its really a lovely color(in spite of how its described!)
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P.S to former post.cerulean.
The name indeed comes from latin 'caelum'= sky , so are you right! It is a descriptive name.
The color itself is known only from the beginning of the nineteenth century.
Like a lemon is never purely 'lemon yellow', the sky is never purely cerulean 'sky' blue.
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That one is unfortunately best characterized (but translated to polite terms) as 'canine spoor brown'. 
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Helen a very accurate description of Puce unfortunately the question was about cerulean. which has nothing to do with fleas that I know of. I am not sure how you pronounce ruse but I would rhyme puce with chartreuse (or juice)
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Stupid crossword... how can "coral" mean "soft pink"? I mean, coral (reefs?) vary in colour. And, no definition in my dictionary conforms to pink nohow! just stupid...stupid crossword... right? they got it wrong... I should complain. I should.
Interesting. Here is a vaguely related excerpt from an obscure work:
I also work crossword puzzles but too often find them annoying at the same time. I wonder who invented the rule about that diagonal bilateral symmetry that seems to be in most of them. I sort of like that part. I could be a good crossword puzzle author. Certainly I could write more than two puzzles in a series that do not include ERIE, EERIE, SST, EKES, ERR, or NEE. I would never include anything from the ‘words of the bad songwriter’ list such as O’ER, E’EN, and E’ER [more on this later]. An absolute ban would also apply to the ‘crossword puzzle writer favorite stupid words I hate’, including: AVER, TAM, RES, and ‘word stumps’ like ISM and ADE. I swear any puzzles I ever write will not include ONER, APER, UKE, or SIB. Finally, I would not use foreign words without spelling them correctly. Even I know that there are no such Spanish words as SENORA or NINO, or any AÑTIC or BAÑAL in English, and that LLORRAR has only five letters. In spite of all this, I suspect I do not have much chance of getting the job. I never see any want ads for ‘crossword author’. Maybe there is some kind of crossword puzzle writer dynasty no one else can break into. I would at least expect them to have secret identities like comic book heroes, out of fear that someone would get after them with a bat. 
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Stupid crossword... how can "coral" mean "soft pink"? I mean, coral (reefs?) vary in colour. And, no definition in my dictionary conforms to pink nohow! just stupid...stupid crossword... right? they got it wrong... I should complain. I should.
Interesting. Here is a vaguely related excerpt from an obscure work:
I also work crossword puzzles but too often find them annoying at the same time. I wonder who invented the rule about that diagonal bilateral symmetry that seems to be in most of them. I sort of like that part. I could be a good crossword puzzle author. Certainly I could write more than two puzzles in a series that do not include ERIE, EERIE, SST, EKES, ERR, or NEE. I would never include anything from the ‘words of the bad songwriter’ list such as O’ER, E’EN, and E’ER [more on this later]. An absolute ban would also apply to the ‘crossword puzzle writer favorite stupid words I hate’, including: AVER, TAM, RES, and ‘word stumps’ like ISM and ADE. I swear any puzzles I ever write will not include ONER, APER, UKE, or SIB. Finally, I would not use foreign words without spelling them correctly. Even I know that there are no such Spanish words as SENORA or NINO, or any AÑTIC or BAÑAL in English, and that LLORRAR has only five letters. In spite of all this, I suspect I do not have much chance of getting the job. I never see any want ads for ‘crossword author’. Maybe there is some kind of crossword puzzle writer dynasty no one else can break into. I would at least expect them to have secret identities like comic book heroes, out of fear that someone would get after them with a bat.
Add EPEE, ETUI, OLEO, OLIO and a few others to that list and we'll form a club.
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Aramis, try English cryptic crosswords. Because they don't have as many checked lights they can have a much wider range of words.
Isn't coral pink a shade of lipstick?
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Welcome aBoard, BranS. Glad you decided to join us.
So that now I can at last go back to page 6 and Thank Consuelo for the welcome I got.Which I should have done in the first place.So; Thanks again in cadmium red /light! For I'm glad too I did.
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do you have access to a pantone color set or book?
it is color 19-1518
Sorry,I do a lot of posting, struck by enthousiasm. I think I can get it at the American Bookstore. All this pantone talk makes me wonder.
Puce, the french word for flea soundwise can't be rhymed neither to ruse nor juice. The english sound goes djooss or roozze, but puce gives the sound of a strong uuuu.Accent on the second part of the word.The sound of it is not there in english.
You say culture, but the french and the dutch say cultuuuuur.And leave the j out of it. Lips practically closed like when you whistle.
(With or without coral pink lipstick) 
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Puce, the french word for flea soundwise can't be rhymed neither to ruse nor juice.
Well, the English word puce is pronounced /'pjUs/. And, isn't the French vowel here a closed front rounded one /y/ rather than a close back rounded /u/ one? /'pti 'pys/
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Puce, the french word for flea soundwise can't be rhymed neither to ruse nor juice.
Well, the English word puce is pronounced /'pjUs/. And, isn't the French vowel here a closed front rounded one /y/ rather than a close back rounded /u/ one? /'pti 'pys/
Sorry for causing this misunderstanding and very well you noticed something was wrong. One sentence:
'Accent on the second part of the word', ended up at the wrong place.
This was referring to culture---cultuuuuur and had to come after that one, but somehow the little devil jumped. Nothing to do with puce, which is a one-accent word. Just a one syllable-sound.
Some sounds are hard to be put in words. Whistle like someone who can't whistle and you more or less have the french, dutch, german U and UU. Very uncomfortable.
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Whistle like someone who can't whistle and you more or less have the french, dutch, german U and UU. Very uncomfortable.
Yes, i when i was learning french, the nun would come round and gently pinch our cheeks --not hard enough to hurt--except if we had been practicing our french R's and U's --then our cheek muscles were tender (because to make those sounds correctly, we had to exersize and use facial muscles not normal used in English (and certain not used in how NYer's speak english!)
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Aramis, try English cryptic crosswords. Because they don't have as many checked lights they can have a much wider range of words.
Not grasping what 'checked lights' are about but some of those Brit puzzles are quite challenging. Never saw one that suggested Elmer Fudd was a pig, either. [Not making this up, really!] As Fromage suggested, there should be an 'Angry Mob with Torches Out to Get Bad Crossword Writers' club.
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Yes, i when i was learning french, the nun would come round and gently pinch our cheeks --not hard enough to hurt--except if we had been practicing our french R's and U's --then our cheek muscles were tender (because to make those sounds correctly, we had to exersize and use facial muscles not normal used in English (and certain not used in how NYer's speak english!)
Good story!I can see a composition of black,white and many coral pink cheeks . 'The progress of our french students depends litterally on their malleability.'
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Aramis, try English cryptic crosswords. Because they don't have as many checked lights they can have a much wider range of words.
Not grasping what 'checked lights' are about but some of those Brit puzzles are quite challenging. Never saw one that suggested Elmer Fudd was a pig, either. [Not making this up, really!] As Fromage suggested, there should be an 'Angry Mob with Torches Out to Get Bad Crossword Writers' club.
Cheese! Some people. Anyway, "checked lights" refers to the fact that in your standard USn puzzle every letter is part of both a down word and an across word. In your standard Brit puzzle (and what we USns call cryptics) about half the letters are only in a down word or an across word.
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The lights are the spaces you write in (as opposed to the darks?). Checked lights are the ones used for across words and down words (so you can check your answer). See: http://www.bryson.ltd.uk/glossary.html
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