#156782 - 03/06/06 11:03 AM
Klerisei
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stranger
Registered: 04/09/02
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In wonder in which context you came across the word Klerisei.
Although I am German I have never heard this term before. What I do know, however, is the word Klerus which refers to all the members of the clergy.
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#156783 - 03/06/06 12:39 PM
Re: Klerisei
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/15/00
Posts: 4757
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Welcome, afepple. Personally I've never seen it before apart from in German. The closest is the word clerisy meaning literati or intellectual elite.
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#156785 - 03/06/06 07:51 PM
Re: clerisy
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stranger
Registered: 03/06/06
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I suppose I do not find it strange that the same word which refers to the literati is closely allied with the word for clergy, given history; to me it seems there has always been a close alliance between intellectual knowledge and the sacred; I wonder if anyone here has read a book entitled,"Pythagoras' Trousers'? it's a bit of a rant but interesting in its exposition of the religious nature of knowledge. After all, in Western mythology, was that not Eve's greatest sin that she ate of the tree of knowledge?
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#156789 - 03/06/06 10:04 PM
Re: clerisy
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/14/01
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Loc: New York City
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Quote:
There is consensus among most biblical theologians that the sin of Eve of was not eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge but rather disobedience.
In a little-known pair of verses which were edited out of the Book of Genesis by scribes many centuries ago, the following appears. "And the man said to the woman, the Lord God has commanded that we may freely eat of every tree of the garden but, of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, we may not eat. And the woman answered the man, 'Roolz!? We don't need no steenkin' roolz.'" These verses made it plain that the sin was not the ingestion of the fruit but the decision to disregard the rules which got Eve and her husband in so much trouble.
That, Father Steve, is a can of worms. And coming from a judge, no less!
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#156791 - 03/07/06 10:34 AM
Re: clerisy
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/28/00
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Don't worry FS, worms is good protein. They tought us that in Air-cadet survival camp. Little tip from me though...if you're in the least bit queasy, you simply slurp 'em down without chewing. It got a few of my squadron through the day.
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#156792 - 03/07/06 10:50 AM
Re: clerisy
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 01/05/01
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#156793 - 03/07/06 11:06 AM
Re: clerisy
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/28/00
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Ah but Alex, I was young and impetuous, and wanted to learn to fly for free. If it meant I had to be the best air cadet they'd ever seen (only the top-marked sergeants got the courses) then that's what I was gonna be.
Other things got in the way of my learning to fly - nepotism, politics and such - but that's another story involving a different type of worm. *sigh*
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#156794 - 03/07/06 11:32 AM
Re: survival training
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member
Registered: 03/23/04
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Once apologized to a (non-conformist) Jewish friend for serving him
bacon...He said, forget it, he'd eaten rattlesnake in survival training, nothing else could be a big deal....and he was one who learned to fly at government expense.
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#156795 - 03/07/06 11:55 AM
Re: learning to fly
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/28/00
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Hmmm. I see a pattern emerge here. Though we don't have rattlesnakes here. Would have been nice (she says nostalgically) to have those big fat rattlesnakes.
We do have garter snakes, but with our temperature, they're very small and skinny. Skinned and cooked, they are rather toothpick-like.
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#156796 - 03/07/06 12:34 PM
Re: learning to fly
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 01/05/01
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Loc: Spam Factory
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Survival training for AWAD involves being left to forage on a blank page, with nothing to eat but your words.
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#156797 - 03/07/06 01:20 PM
Re: clerisy
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/14/01
Posts: 2379
Loc: New York City
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That, Father Steve, is a can of worms.
Well, Martin Luther survived a Diet of Worms in 1521 so I suppose I oughta be able to handle it in 2006.
Somewhere or other I heard or read about this clue in the Times of London Sunday Crossword:
"kosher diet" (seven letters)
Answer (below):
knesset
Edited by inselpeter (03/07/06 10:07 PM)
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#156799 - 05/02/06 08:13 PM
Re: Klerisei
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old hand
Registered: 12/20/00
Posts: 1055
Loc: Berlin
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Hey afepple,
The term seems to refer a specific (regional) group of clerics. Eg. 'Klerisei Sowiesodorf', unlike 'Klerus' and much like 'Abtei'. I would be very interested to know how long this construction has been in use. Do you think it's old? I remember having some discussion of neologisms created using the suffix '-ei' with someone. These sometimes result in odd sounding words such as 'Detektei'. Some seem to think such words sound more official and are more concise, others think they sound silly.
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