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#156038 - 02/22/06 02:38 PM Double Dactyl
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At the suggestion of another user, here is a thread for double dactyls.


I found a nice, concise list of the rules for double dactyls at thie web page:

Here's a detailed list of rules for constructing a double dactyl:
(1) The entire poem is a single sentence.
(2) There are two stanzas of four lines each.
(3) All lines except lines four and eight are two dactylic metrical feet in length.
(4) The first line is usually a rhyming nonsense phrase. For example, "Higgledy piggledy."
(5) The second line often, but not always, introduces the topic of the poem. If you are writing about a person, it helps if the name of the person you are writing about is naturally in the form of a double dactyl. For example, "Hans Christian Andersen."
(6) One line within the second stanza (often the sixth line) is a six-syllable, double-dactylic word, usually an adverb or adjective. For example, "Parthenogenesis."
(7) The fourth and eighth lines are not double dactyls. Instead, these lines consist of one dactyl plus a stressed syllable.
(8) The fourth and eighth lines rhyme with one another. Given the special form of the fourth and eight lines as mentioned in the preceding rule, it follows that the final, rhyming syllable of these lines must be a stressed syllable.

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Here's my first-ever attempt (now edited upon further [and by further I mean initial] reading of the rules myself):

Antique Roadshow
Cheerio dearie-o
Leslie and Leigh Keno
Praising the furniture
Said as they grinned:

“It’s neither Empire nor
Neoclassical but
Frank Lloyd Wright-inspired!
See how it’s pinned?”


Generic Double Dactyl
Oracle boracle
Person Historical
Tales allegorical
If they will fit

Polysyllabical
Iconoclastical
Thusly redacted rhe-
-torical wit



Edited by Alex Williams (02/25/06 08:11 AM)

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#156039 - 02/22/06 09:35 PM Re: Double Dactyl
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And the two single word lines in the second make up for the lack of any in the first?

Wouldn't want necomers to the art getting the wrong idea now.

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#156040 - 02/22/06 10:11 PM The naughty, naughty schoolboy
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Skittable knitable
Faldage-the-Critical
Authoritatively
Laid down the rule

Alex, admittedly
Abecedarian,
Unhesitatingly
Went back to school

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#156041 - 02/22/06 10:45 PM Re: The naughty, naughty schoolboy
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Alex, maybe you should find the double-dactyl rulz, and post a link to them in your signature.

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#156042 - 02/22/06 11:09 PM Curses
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from the LINK (click here where the letters are a different color, yes the left button on the mouse) already posted in the first entry in this thread...

A dactyl, as you may know, is a poetic foot of the form >-- (ON-off-off). For example, interstate, realize, microphone, cereal, limerick, etc. etc. A double dactyl, naturally enough, is two dactyls in a row.

A double dactyl is also a poem, a form invented by Anthony Hecht and Paul Pascal. Quite like a limerick, it has a rigid (if peculiar) structure. Two stanzas, each comprising three lines of dactylic dimeter followed by a line with a dactyl and a single accent. The two stanzas have to rhyme on their last line. The first line of the first stanza is repetitive nonsense. The second line of the first stanza is somebody's name -- strictly speaking, a proper noun. Note that this name must itself be double-dactylic. E.g. Gloria Vanderbilt, Jesus of Nazareth, Gilbert and Sullivan, Archangel Gabriel. In the second stanza, one entire line must be a double-dactylic word. E.g. biopsychology


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Albatross Balbatross
Baron von Richthofen
Chased a Canadian
Down to the deck

There at such altitudes
Acrodendrophilous
Double-A gunners soon
Blew him to heck

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#156043 - 02/23/06 05:35 AM Re: Curses
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looking intensely for
the <bow emoticon>,
Alex, er, Will-i-ams
d'serves one, indeed.

seemingly, effortless-
ly, he produces, a
double-dactylian
menagerie!
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#156044 - 02/23/06 10:02 AM Yeah!
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Higgledy-Piggledy
Alex the Hogmeister
Deftly deals dactlys
Like so many cards,

Hearts, spades, clubs, diamonds
Serendiptiously
Fly from his fingers --
He's one of our bards.

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#156045 - 02/23/06 10:54 AM I plead the fifth
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Higglepod snogglepod
Susan B Anthony
Honored on dollar coins
By U.S. mint

Fighting for suffrage so
Ever-unflaggingly
(Dollars, like voting rights,
Largely unspent)

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Higgity hoggity
Ludwig van Beethoven
Lost all his hearing from
years of abuse

From his mean father so
uberopprobrious
Yet brilliant Ludwig van
Retained his muse

--from Alex who likes a bit of the ultraviolence


Edited by Alex Williams (02/23/06 12:21 PM)

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#156046 - 02/23/06 12:51 PM Re: I plead the fifth
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ultraviolence Purple proses?

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#156047 - 02/23/06 02:03 PM Alex
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I've created a monster!!

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#156048 - 02/23/06 02:20 PM it's alive
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I'm glad to give others a smile but I do eagerly anticipate others' contributions. Perhaps I should sit on my hands for awhile and focus on quality more than quantity. In the meantime take a gander at the "Romeo and Juliet" double dactyl that can be found HERE (scroll down a bit). Truly, a work of mad genius it is.

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#156049 - 02/23/06 09:34 PM Re: take two dactyls a day
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Funnybones honeybones,
Doctor A Williams has
Scrip for a new kind of
Comical rhyme.

Sharp wits he operates:
Cutting and pasting he
Iatrogenically
Slays us each time!

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#156050 - 02/23/06 10:16 PM Re: take two dactyls a day
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I guess I confus-ed, that's
right, it's me, etaoin;
the order in which the
name ought to have been.

try as I might, I con-
-tinually evade rules
prevaricatingly
playing the fool.
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#156051 - 02/24/06 11:39 AM Can't bury the urge to double dactyl
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Coarse-ary sorcery
Bath Wife of Chaucer, G.
Told of a rapist sent
Out on a quest:

Married to mutable
Octogenarian,
Faced with dilemma, said
“Dear you know best.”


Edited by Alex Williams (02/24/06 12:58 PM)

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#156052 - 02/24/06 12:08 PM Re: take two dactyls a day
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roolzeeo smoolzeeo
e t a o i n
thought he'd deliberately
mislead the troops

Offering up a faux
participational
entry he steers newbies
down the wrong chutes.

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#156053 - 02/25/06 01:20 PM The Physician's Tale
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The Physician’s Tale

woefully soulfully
comely Verginia
Apius creyves her for
lecherus sport

conspiratorial
perjurer Claudius
habeus corpus
obteyns from the court

fader Verginius
axiomatically
practyces filicide
honour to save

prosecutorial
consequence: Claudius,
banished; for Apius,
unhallowed grave

--by Alex, who writes in the style of the old masters and shamelessly rips off John Held, Jr's epitaphs

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#156054 - 02/27/06 07:44 AM Volitant
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Heffalump huffalump
Danaus plexippus,
volitant royalty
of wind and earth,

aposematically
warning all predators:
Alkaloid flavor here,
give me wide berth
.

--by Alex, whose doggerel may leave a bad taste in your mouth


Edited by Alex Williams (02/27/06 07:46 AM)

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#180318 - 11/14/08 07:00 PM Re: Volitant [Re: Alex Williams]
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Zippity Lippity
Catherine DeMedicis,
Looking to end the
religious divides,

Issued her Edict so
Idealistically;
Nevertheless many
Lost their poor hides.

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#180319 - 11/14/08 07:09 PM Re: Volitant [Re: Coffeebean]
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holey frijole a-
nother dactylian
starting up something that
had faded 'way

looking to find us un-
characteristic'lly
sleep-walking behind the
rhythmic parade.
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#180353 - 11/17/08 12:11 AM Re: Volitant [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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grin

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#180370 - 11/17/08 02:32 PM Re: Volitant [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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Sneakingly, creepingly,
some think annoyingly,
twosleepy comes in to
fix up the mess

made of a Spanish word,
guess that you never heard;
"frijole" does not ex-
ist; it's "frijol" no less!

Spanglishly, manglishly
statesians mess up in
trying to use words that
aren't English norm,

stumblingly, humblingly,
Even the best can learn
"-es" removes from the
plural noun form.


Wow! Did I write that?!? That was fun! Don't know if I followed all the rules, but I think so... This is a problem usually with "tamales", from which people want to make "tamale", but it doesn't exist; it's "tamal" in the singular. Since so many Spanish words end in vowels, those are easy; just remove the "s". Hope you enjoyed my mini-lesson! :0)

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#180373 - 11/17/08 03:18 PM Re: Volitant [Re: twosleepy]
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'njoying the lesson I
stand by my usage I
know that I've heard it a
time on TV

blame not me, uh-uh my
vocabularic pe-
culiar niceties
trump prescript'vies!
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#180374 - 11/17/08 04:12 PM Re: Volitant [Re: twosleepy]
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That's a mayor poem and lesson and Etaoin is making hashj from it. And you could have expected this sooner or later:

Dactylus! Dactylus!
Olleke bolleke
Tweemaal vier regels
Die rijmen aan 't slot

Kreet, thema, één woord met
Zeslettergrepigheid
Moeilijk te maken
Maar wat een genot! (borrowed)
----------
AKA: Olleke Bolleke
rebuso olleke
Olleke Bolleke............Knol! (nursery rhyme)

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#180392 - 11/18/08 07:43 AM scat [Re: BranShea]
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Sniggley piggly
Ding dong a diggley
Wop bop a loo bop a-biddle bam bo

Widdley waddley
Sham-a-lama ding daddley
Hi de hi de hi de hi de hi de hi de hi de ho!

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#180393 - 11/18/08 08:27 AM Re: scat [Re: Alex Williams]
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heh

I remember a similar bit of poetry on an episode of Night Court.
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#180405 - 11/18/08 02:58 PM Re: scat [Re: Alex Williams]
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Your elegant nursery rhyme proves to me once more that the Dutch language is fine for many things, but it does not sing.
The difference is obvious.

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#180411 - 11/18/08 04:41 PM Re: scat [Re: BranShea]
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I find the most difficult part of the Double Dactyl is finding the person's name in that meter. Here's one for today. You can tell I don't have enough work to do!!

Doodlewon Toodlewon
Jennifer Anniston:
Actress who played in a
Number of hits;

She tried to reconcile
Enthusiastically;
Later declared, “Brad, you’re
Really the PITTS.”

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#180417 - 11/18/08 08:58 PM Re: scat [Re: Coffeebean]
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[helpless laughter e]

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#180442 - 11/19/08 12:41 PM Re: Volitant [Re: Coffeebean]
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Originally Posted By: Coffeebean
Zippity Lippity
Catherine DeMedicis,
Looking to end the
religious divides,

Issued her Edict so
Idealistically;
Nevertheless many
Lost their poor hides.


Something made me think of Catherine DeMedicis a couple weeks ago. I don't even remember now what it was. But I thought: "Aha! A double dactyl could arise from this!" And I began to cogitate.

Actually, all I truly remembered about her from my school daze was that she was a ruthless woman and a poisoner. As you can see, after doing a little research, I decided to praise her for her good, yet futile, attempt to bring Catholics and Hugenots together.

So you see, wordplay is not only fun but educational. I learned things about her I had not known!

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#180488 - 11/22/08 11:55 AM Re: Double Dactyl [Re: Alex Williams]
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Supiter Dupiter
Anakin Skywalker:
Jedi apprentice,
The Force was his guide;

He fought fantastically,
Telekinetically,
Bravely for Good 'til
Consumed by his pride.

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#180497 - 11/23/08 01:41 PM Re: Double Dactyl [Re: Coffeebean]
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Coffeebean Jediïng
down to Old Catherine
taking the mind machine
Gracefully pardonning

Medici caught between
unfaith and onfaith of
Philip and Taciturn
endlessly bickering......

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#180777 - 12/09/08 04:38 PM Re: Double Dactyl [Re: BranShea]
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Hennety Pennety
Jacqueline Kennedy,
Wife of the ill-fated
President, Jack:

She stood majestically,
Characteristically
Strong through her heartbreak
And never looked back.

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#203307 - 11/17/11 07:03 PM Re: Double Dactyl [Re: Alex Williams]
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Heineken Beineken
Old Samuel Adams was
Checking his private stock,
Looking for Bud.

Bottles were bad for his
Crystallophobia.
He cracked a can open--
Tasted like mud.

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#203313 - 11/18/11 07:20 AM Re: Double Dactyl [Re: obihave]
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Boldly Mongolian
Hordeing old Genghis Khan
Swept through the Steppes “like
A Wolf on the Fold”

Mightily, Blightily
Quite genocidally
Reliev’d all the Slavs of
Their silver and gold
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#203314 - 11/18/11 07:21 AM Re: Double Dactyl [Re: Rhubarb Commando]
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Meninov Leninov
Vladimir Ulanov
Said in Geneva in
Jan. ’17,

“I fear revolution
Will not be solution
In my lifetime: when, it
remains to be seen”
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#203315 - 11/18/11 07:33 AM A tribute? [Re: Rhubarb Commando]
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The Rev Ian Paisley, leader and founder of both the Independent Presbyterian Church and the Democratic Unionist Party in N. Ireland, has just retired from the Church at the age of (I think) 78. He retired from the political party aout 18 months ago. He was noted for his very loud voice and remarkably powerful sermons in his south Belfast chapel. This is to him ...


Lazily Aisily
The Reverend Paisley
Steps from his pulpit and
Makes his way out

Not any more will he
Declamatorily
Raise East Belfast with his
Shout from the South
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#203331 - 11/18/11 02:50 PM Re: A tribute? [Re: Alex Williams]
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Limerick Gimmerick
Jason of Pendleton
Tried double-dactyls while
Fearing the worst.

Uh-oh-spaghetti-o!
They're all bass-ackwards cuz
He's used to anapest
(Dactyls reversed).

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#203332 - 11/18/11 03:23 PM Re: A tribute? [Re: obihave]
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Kerotsky Perlotsky
L.Bronstein (or Trotsky)
Fell out with Lenin
Before 1910,

Came back to the Bolshie fold
Talented manifold
And led the Red Guards to
Full victory.

(2nd stanza, 1st ine is unorthodox - but so was Trotsky!)
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#203333 - 11/18/11 03:32 PM Re: A tribute? [Re: Rhubarb Commando]
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Heidelburg Hoodelburg
Albert Saxe-Coburg and
Gotha paid court to the
Young British Queen,

Married her, carried her
Then didn’t tarry here
After which she was rare-
Ly to be seen
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#203388 - 11/20/11 08:56 PM Re: A tribute? [Re: Rhubarb Commando]
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Yowsee- I have missed reading this thread. Clap, clap,clap - obi and rhuby (welcome back rhuby - you have brought back a bit o' 2001)


Edited by Avy (11/21/11 08:54 PM)

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#216889 - 06/02/14 11:50 AM Re: Double Dactyl [Re: Alex Williams]
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mind-body, body-mind
Renee Descartes, it's said,
thought that the dactyllic
form should be banned:

"We should not write things so
polysyllabically,
Just use two beats, I think,
therefore iamb."

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#216890 - 06/02/14 12:06 PM Re: Double Dactyl [Re: Kokopelli]
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very good: welcome
Love your name. The trickster is a fave of mine as well.
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#216897 - 06/02/14 07:20 PM Re: Double Dactyl [Re: LukeJavan8]
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That's a good one.

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#216898 - 06/02/14 08:19 PM Re: Double Dactyl [Re: Kokopelli]
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Originally Posted By: Kokopelli
mind-body, body-mind
Renee Descartes, it's said,
thought that the dactyllic
form should be banned:

"We should not write things so
polysyllabically,
Just use two beats, I think,
therefore iamb."

Back in his era, the
Seventeenth century,
Smooth alexandrines were
Often the way;

Playwrights were keen on these
Dodecasyllables,
As in the tragedies
Penned by Corneille.

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#216907 - 06/04/14 12:37 PM Re: Double Dactyl [Re: Alex Williams]
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Stippety steppity
My name is Dave, I'm ad-
dicted to dactyl hex-
ameter verse,

My Higher Power in
dodecaincrement
meetings must help me be-
fore it gets worse.

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#216910 - 06/04/14 02:34 PM Where does a tetradactyl fit into that schema? [Re: Kokopelli]
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Roboty, noboty,
Doc Isaac Asimov
Taught biochemistry,
Then wrote sci-fi:

"'Para-dichloro-
amino-benzaldehyde ! '
Such a nice lilt to it ! "
Twinkle in eye.

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#216914 - 06/04/14 06:14 PM Here, at the lab. [Re: wofahulicodoc]
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Dickety Dockety
wofahulicodoc
wrote a small ditty on
Doc Asimov,

using appropriate
organochemical
endless compoundedness;
fits like a glove.



Asimov's own suggestion… was to say "Has Him Of" and leave out the H's.
http://www.asimovonline.com/asimov_FAQ.html#non-literary1

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#216916 - 06/04/14 10:17 PM Re: Here, at the lab. [Re: Tromboniator]
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Well bless your heart, I'm touched! i do believe that's the first time I've been the object of a Double-Dactyl. (Or any other kind of poem, for that matter.)

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#216917 - 06/04/14 10:42 PM Dactylic rhythm is wherever you find it ! [Re: Coffeebean]
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From November 19, 2008, above! (modified slightly)
Quote:
Originally Posted By: Coffeebean
Zippity Lippity
Catherine DeMedici,
Looking to end the
religious divides,

Issued her Edict so
Idealistically;
Nevertheless many
Lost their poor hides.

Something made me think of Catherine DeMedici a couple weeks ago. I don't even remember now what it was. But I thought: "Aha! A double dactyl could arise from this!" And I began to cogitate.

Actually, all I truly remembered about her from my school daze was that she was a ruthless woman and a poisoner. As you can see, after doing a little research, I decided to praise her for her good, yet futile, attempt to bring Catholics and Hugenots together.

So you see, wordplay is not only fun but educational. I learned things about her I had not known!

Or, to paraphrase minimally,

"All I remembered of
Catherine de Medici:
Ruthless, the woman,
Of poisonous tone...

So you see, wordplay is
Fun, educational;
Learned things about her
That I had not known!"

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#216918 - 06/05/14 12:13 AM Re: Here, at the lab. [Re: wofahulicodoc]
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Originally Posted By: wofahulicodoc

Well bless your heart, I'm touched! i do believe that's the first time I've been the object of a Double-Dactyl. (Or any other kind of poem, for that matter.)


A small salute perhaps, but a salute nonetheless. I appreciate your contributions to this forum.

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