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Today's newspaper, in a very timely manner, mentions that three small towns in Kentucky are voting on whether to be
"wet" or "dry". Little old lady says the town's been fine without liquor for 150 yrs., why bring it in now to risk
moral decay. Next-door neighbor says, because all the people go spend their money in the nearest town where they can buy a drink.
They may indeed elect new officials next time, Ted.
On to a musick note: good, connotative word, Dearest!
I, too, seem to be taking a day off of everything but this board! (Conscience, get thee behind me.)
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(Conscience, get thee behind me.)Jackie - Reminds me of the preacher's wife who came home with a new dress. "I couldn't resist the temptation," the wife said. "You should have told the devil to get behind you," said the Preacher. "I did, dear, but the Devil told me 'It looks lovely from the back, too'"   RE LIQUOR. In New Hampshire, 1973 I think, the state legislature lowered the drinking age from 21 to 18. After a couple of years the 21-to-drink was reinstated and there it stays. NH also has state controlled liquor. The prices, should you be in the neighborhood, are VERY reasonable. The state in days past was big on painting things a deep green, including the doors of the State Liquor Stores. Now, here's one more bit of info which I will tie in, your honor, if you'll grant me a litle leeway. During Prohibition liquor could be legally obtained for "medical reasons" with a prescription from an MD. The natural outcome of these seemingly unrelated items is that a run to the liquor store in New Hampshire is often euphemistically called "a trip to see Doc Green." It keeps the Johnny-come-latelys confused. wow
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a trip to see Doc Green
Whereas in Massachusetts, we referred to the liquor store as the "package store" (I would be very grateful to anyone who comes up with an explanation of that one), so going out to get beer, wine, anything alcoholic, was called a "packy run."
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There are two (main) types of liquor licenses here in Chi-Town; 1) the kind that allows you to buy in bulk and serve out of kegs through a tap or by the glass wine, and 2)the kind called a "packaged goods" license, where everything leaves in a brown bag (or plastic). This is why it was called "brown bagging it" (walking down the street and drinking from a bottle you just bought). I've never done that !
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Yes, as musick notes about Chicago, liquor licenses typically distinguish between for-consumption-on-the-premises and alcohol-in-a-package-for-consumption-off-the-premises. So, Hyla's trip to the package store is to buy booze in a bottle to take home. Some states will allow the two to mix, such as restaurants where you can bring your own wine, but in Michigan and other places, you can only consume alcohol on a licensed premises which is furnished by the licensee per the scope of the license.
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In New Zealand, liquor licensing used to be just about the toughest in the known world. A series of reforms has seen the legal drinking age come down to 18, riddled with exceptions, and supermarkets and bottlestores vie to flog beer and wine. Hard liquor appears to remain the province of liquor retailing specialists, but now that licensing hours are virtually 24 x 7, you can basically get anything you want whenever you want it.
Not altogether sure that this is actually a good thing, by the way. Reporting, not editorialising, Wow!
The idiot also known as Capfka ...
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The times mosr certainly do seem to be a'changin', all over the place.
When I was first starting to drink in pubs, closing time was 10pm during the week, 10.30 on Saturday and it was strictly enforced by the police. "Lock-ins" - i.e. after hours drinking - did occur, but only among close friends of the landlord who could be relied on not to talk about it outside. (You were, literally, locked i to the pub and only allowed out after the landlord had checked that the coast was clear!)
Three months ago, the Landlord of the "Green Dragon" had a call from the police, during the afternoon, who pointed out to him that closing time is 11pm, and they would be greatly obliged if he would make sure that his curtains were closed after that time so that they could not see into the bar as they drove past at 2am.
Many places have licences to 2am, now and the police are no longer interested in trying to maintain a law that has fallen in to disuetude and disrepute.
It seems that 24x7 licencing is just round the corner for the UK, too.
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The state of NJ still has dry counties, and it has very high taxes on liquor in those counties that are wet-- some jersey residents have taken to driving to Maryland to by liquor cheaper. Its not illegal to do, if you then notify NJ tax authority and pay the extra tax (yeah, right!)
So NJ started to send "spy's" to the liquor stores near the border, and write down the plate numbers, and or follow NJ residents home-- as they crossed the border, they would be stopped-- and assessed the taxes on the spot in the form of a fine.
So, NJ residents started to drive from Maryland to Pennsylvania and then to NJ. the longer route made it almost impossbile for cops to track them--So the Jersey cops started to stop NJ drivers as they left Maryland, and entered PA. PA Attorney General put a stop to it, (only permitted for NJ cops to arrest in PA if they are in "Hot Pursuit".)
State of Maryland had no comment. all this occured about 10 years ago-- NJ residents still drive to Maryland to buy liquor.
Some people don't realize that South Jersey is the northern edge of the bible belt!
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musick comments: (walking down the street and drinking from a bottle you just bought). and says that he has never done it.
Neither have I. Now sitting on a curb (kerb, for the True English Challenged) drinking from a bottle in a bag that someone else has (I assume) bought, that's a different story.
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well our fool is no fool! Its illegal to walk down the street "brown bagging" in NY (it is illegal to walk or drive with an open bottle of alcohol)--so 1) people "brown bag" 2) the sit down on a bench, or stoop, curb or lean against a car-- so they are not walking and drinking at the same time!
it illegal to "brown bag" on the subway, but commutor trains have either bar cars, or kiosks on the platforms before you board the train (for purchasing a drink to go) -- a case of economic discrimination. (commutor trains are about 3 times as expensive as subway) Because of this, LIRR is prefered way to get to Shea stadium, rather than the (in)famous #7 train-- fans can get a head start before they get to game.
No one on the board from the big easy, huh? They have Take out shops-- bars have store windows that will sell beer and other drinks to patrons on the street-- NY's Pizza restraunts often have "take out windows" where you can by a slice, or in the summer an italian ice with out actally entering the store. In NO's, the bars/package shops have the same feature! and you can drink legally on the street.
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