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Oh, and how do you pronounce Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch?
Just the way it's spelled. That's the nice thing about Welsh, there's a one to one correspondence between the way a word is spelled and the way it's pronounced. The fact that it takes as long to explain how to pronounce the <ll> as it does to pronounce the whole word is irrelevant.
Tip of tongue to just behind top front teeth - no palatal seal on tongue edges - unvoiced expulsion of air to both sides of tongue, releasing tongue tip in an ordinary Anglo /l/ sound. So it ends up summat like HHH~lan, or not unlike the /x/ at the end of loch.
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oh yeah, and not to disabuse Fong's lovely theory but: the fair part is sounded more like 'vire' ('fire' with a voiced first consonant).
Well, duh! If you want an unvoiced labio-dental fricative you spell it ff.
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For a sound file (MP3) go to near the foot of this page - it's a full explanation and recording done for Welsh Radio International, an internet outlet run by my aunt (heard presenting, and learning the pronunciation!)
I did not expect my jocoserious request for a prononciation of Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch (is there an abbreviation?) to be answered.
"Not bad... Could be a bit faster... I'd roll the r more" said Rachel Phillips-James. Wow! A hard task-master! I think your aunt did extraordinarily well.
Actually, I wouldn't know a Welsh consonant from a Southern Bantu alveolar click, but I enjoyed listening.
Thank you for the interesting post.
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> I'd roll the r more" said Rachel Phillips-James. Wow! A hard task-master!
yep, they're famous for the way they roll their r's in Crymych! Glad it was of some interest.
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I thnk we might find out a little bit about how some of the ladies roll their r's. You guys rolling yours doesn't do a thing for me!
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> I'd roll the r more" said Rachel Phillips-James. Wow! A hard task-master!
yep, they're famous for the way they roll their r's in Crymych! Glad it was of some interest.
I did a little research and found that the "rolling their r's" joke was outlawed in 1928, probably inspired by the 1927 outlawing of the bowling a maiden over joke by the Marlyebone Cricket Club.
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Since Crymych has yet to attain the year 1928 this prohibition does not apply in this case.
and you should see the women - no wonder the sheep look worried!
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