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Excuse the (to some of you, unfamiliar) subject line, please -- I'm Canadian. :-)
Reading the message for "filemot" sparked my interest, since its meaning, the colour of dead leaves, is also the name of a glass colour used for wine bottles. In North America, at least, the typical burgundy-style wine bottle colour is called "dead leaf green," a sexy marketing term if there ever was one, dontcha think? ;-) Most of you will be familiar with the hue -- a green / olive / yellow colour that's unique to the burgundy-style wine bottle.
I'm wondering now whether in sophisticated European wine biz circles, the colour is called filemot.
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more likely to be feuillemorte (at least in France and Quebec :)
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And with just a little bit of searching, I find a list of bottle colours from a glass bottle company.
From http://www.rexam.com/sectors/index.asp?pageid=83
"Rexam has a wide range of furnace colours, 15 in all: flint, half white, sky, sapphire, royal blue, georgia green, light green, emerald, champagne green, dark green, antique/olive, feuille morte, light amber, amber, red amber."
A few of those would qualify as fall colours, I think.
In my experience with glass companies, I've found that the descriptive words apply pretty flexibly to the actual colours. Or maybe that should be the other way around. I've had one eminent British wine critic look askance at my "dead leaf green" bottles of Pinot Gris. "Why do you use yellow bottles?" he asked pointedly. Fortunately, he was rather more open-minded and appreciative of what was in the bottle. ;-)
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> fall colours
shardonné I presume?
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Hi BC, welcome aBoard. No need to apologize for spelling "colour" properly  . There are a few of us Canadians on Board so our U.S. friends have had to get used to the correct spelling by now. Interesting post, by the way. I knew there were different colours of wine bottles but didn’t know they were specifically named and sorted for different wines. Though I'm not a wine expert, I do love a good bottle of wine and really appreciate the different textures and nuances of the different…oh shoot, what’s the word for “cépage” in English…the wine grape varieties. I admit to ignorance about BC wineries and thought that our wineries were situated mostly in the Niagara area. Do you make anything that I could find at our alcohol commission? I’d go out and buy some.
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>> No need to apologize for spelling "colour" properly<<
lol!
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"Varieties" is good. I think the advertisers like "varietal." Here is what dic.com has to say.
va·ri·e·tal P Pronunciation Key (v-r-tl)
adj.
Of, indicating, or characterizing a variety, especially a biological variety.
n.
A wine made principally from one variety of grape and carrying the name of that grape.
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Cépage in that sense is "grape varieties", but it also just means 'grapevine', too? From cep 'vine-slip'. From Latin cippus 'picket, pointed stake'.
Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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Sorry about the simultaneous (mine was long in the editing phase) posting.
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>>alcohol commission<<
What on Earth . . . ?
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What on Earth
I assumed this was a reference to those provincial monopolies (Liquor Control Commissions ?) that oversee sales of beer, wine, and spirits north of the States.
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north of the States North of the States... is there anything north of the States?? ("correct" spelling: hrmph!) 
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North of the States...is there anything north of the States?
Yes, it's a country called Canada. (Although in at least one place it is south of the States (i.e., Detroit).) And, la belMarduk is from there, I do believe. Me, I stopped capitalizing all Nouns after the Close of the 18th Century. [winkola]
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..not to mention Alaska, of course.
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In Ohio, we have the State Store, which is the only place one can purchase bottles of "hard" liquor (higher percentage of alcohol than available in "regular" stores, but I don't know what the defining percentages are). You can buy beer, wine and lower-percentage liqueurs or alcoholic beverages in convenience stores, grocery stores or "beer and wine carryouts".
State Stores are not on every street corner, so if you're looking for the hard stuff you have to know where to go. Or else you have to drink it by the serving at a bar.
What sane person could live in this world and not be crazy? -Ursula K. Le Guin, author (1929- )
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It's so funny how each state -- often, each county -- in the US has its own laws. In NY you can buy beer at the grocery/convenience store but not wine. You can only get wine at liquor stores. And no sales of either before noon on Sunday. And only recently was it permitted to sell wine/liquor on Sunday.
Back to BC, I'm not surprised they have a thriving wine industry. Look at Washington State, a big producer -- pretty much the same climate, no?
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ZM has it right...the alcohol commission is the governmental organisation that controls the sale of all beverages that have a % of alcohol higher than that of beer. In Québec, it is called la Société des alcools du Québec - S.A.Q. for short.
In Québec, the only alcohol beverages that can be sold outside of an S.A.Q. outlet, are beer, those fruity coolers, and a the lower-end table wines. These can only be sold in grocery stores and dépanneurs (convenience stores).
The sales of the beer and the coolers are not managed by the S.A.Q., but the sales of the wine are. Only table wines are allowed in order to insure that there is not too much competition with the S.A.Q. outlets.
All other wines, liquors and spirits can only be bought in S.A.Q. outlets.
You can buy booze everyday but the stores have to lock up the section at midnight or 1:00 a.m. (not sure exactly which.)
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In Vermont, they have State Liquor Stores. I just like that "Commission" business.
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> Vermont
'tis true, though lots of folks cross over to New Hampshuh to buy, since there ain't no taxes...
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But if you dont give them you're zip code, they throw you in jail.
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Wine is cheaper when we cross over into Ontario, but the choices are limited when compare to Québec.
Their Liquor Control Board of Ontario, L.C.B.O. for short, tends to carry a greater assorment of imported beers though.
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Hi BC, welcome aBoard. No need to apologize for spelling "colour" properly
If you think that's spelled properly try using it in UBBcode.
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I would, but I don't know what UBBcode is. Is is somewhat similar to the spell-checker on AWAD 
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There's a thought. Have we lost Aenigma in the move?
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There's a thought. Have we lost Aenigma in the move?
from the FAQ:
Is there a spellchecker?
No. If you want to be sure that you're word perfect, you'll have to spellcheck your post in some text editor and then cut and paste it into the Forums edit box.
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I mo miss the eccentric old thang, bless her heart.
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please excuse this post. it is an attempt to stop this thread from continually being unread...
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HA! Now that's a new one.
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>Now that's a new one.
well that's the point, isn't it! this stoopid thread is always "NEW"!! (nice thought though, eta.)
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OTOH, anyone who thinks "dead leaf" is a definitive name for a color has never seen the northeast in autumn.
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> northeast in autumn
and boy is this a good one, this year! beautiful.
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OTOH, anyone who thinks "dead leaf" is a definitive name for a color has never seen the northeast in autumn.
Well, the colour name was "dead leaf green" which narrows it down a bit, knowcking out all your amber variants.
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OTOH, anyone who thinks "dead leaf" is a definitive name for a color has never seen the northeast in autumn.
Well, the colour name was "dead leaf green" which narrows it down a bit, knowcking out all your amber variants.
And red, and orange, and yellow, and brown, and, come to that, essentially every dead leaf color.
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