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#148111 - 09/22/05 06:02 PM Re: P vs. D
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Ain't this whole *thing similar to "nature-vs-nurture".... whereas one has history and the other makes history?

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#148112 - 09/23/05 10:42 AM YAO
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#148113 - 09/23/05 11:01 AM Re: YAO
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! Well, at least I'm not the only one who "totally didn't get it". Thanks, m.


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#148114 - 09/23/05 12:04 PM Re: YAO
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How on Earth do you read the preamble of the U.S. Constitution, if not as, in order: subject/appostive (with prepositional phrase)/parenthetical [including list*]/verb phrase/prepositional phrase:

(*what do you call that?)

We/the People (of the United States),/ in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,/ do ordain and establish this Constitution/ for the United States of America.

Where does a copulative come in, unless it were "We and the people," which is counter-intuitive and, if mere jingoism, counter-productive.

And how do you read "We are the people," when the verb phrase is "do hereby. . ."

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#148115 - 09/23/05 12:18 PM Copulate this
musick Offline
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One describes what ain't going on and the other describes what is.

Yet, this does come from something that purports to speak as a/the wizard of id, so it must be the child in us seeking the pleasure of *just asking the question.


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#148116 - 09/23/05 02:40 PM obviousize this
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I. YOU DA MAN
>how do you read "We are the people," when the verb phrase is "do hereby. . ."

see, that was my point when I said the GP (in the comic) assumed too much. to quote the British, "Wait for it!"

II. pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
>Yet, this does come from something that purports to speak as a/the wizard of id.

B.C. is not the same as the Wizard of ID, although Johnny Hart does collaborate with Brant Parker on the Wizard.

-ron o.


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#148117 - 09/23/05 04:37 PM mea culpa
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D'Oh!!!!

My bad... I'd always thought (though never looked) that they were the same art(ist).


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#148118 - 09/23/05 05:11 PM Re: obviousize this
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>>wait for it<<

I like that.


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#148119 - 09/23/05 06:35 PM Re: Missing comma
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please, please, pleeeeease describe your costume.

OK, I've left you hanging long enough. The key phrase is the old Fortran* error message: "Missing comma expected here."

They expected me at the party and I never showed.

*IIRC, it might could have been a Basic error message.


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#148120 - 09/24/05 06:31 AM Re: B.C.
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Least we, the people, forget, words are about meaning, that is, words are about the transfer of information about sensory perceptions from one sapient entity to another.

Cooccurring with the usage of the clarifying aside "the people" in the United States Constitution, the use of the phrase "we the people" became a single thought unit, a rallying cry in direct opposition to "we the ruled and oppressed". Somuchso that if written without prescription "we the people" would read "wethepeople" as a single word.

Today the term "we the people" is used by Americans to remind our entrenched government officials that they exist only at our pleasure and discretion.
And as of yet they haven't sent out any troops.



Maybeso?
Metheposter thinks so anyway.


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