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#144344 - 06/22/05 12:02 PM Wasted and dry
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Two little used and great descriptive words:

phthisis (pronounced alternately: ti’sis, te’sis, thi’sis, and the’sis; from Greek: phth- a wasting) obsolete medical term for consumption, most typically tuberculosis. A wasted (consumed) person is ‘phthisic’



Note: I prefer the ‘thi’ sounding pronunciation for the noun, but the hard ‘t’ for the adjective (my own strangeness). Also, I have seen it spelled with a ‘y’ instead of the ‘i’, but both Dorland’s and Stedman’s medical dictionaries list it with the ‘i’. I have also (old medical journals/articles) seen the adjective spelled ‘phthitic’ and ‘phthytic’.

Another favorite of mine:

wizened (wiz’ end; Old English wisnian – to dry up) to dry up, wither, or shrivel


Thus a very sickly person can be described (I love documenting this in the charts and few people have any idea what I am saying…) as: “phthisic and wizened” – so much more colorful than “wasted and dehydrated”!!

AND:
Same root/meaning as ‘phthisis’ leads to two other lovely words:

phthisiophobic – intense, morbid fear of tuberculosis

phthisiotherapeutic – of or related to the treatment of tuberculosis




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#144345 - 06/25/05 09:12 PM Sneezles in history
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Christopher Robin had wheezles and sneezles
They bundled him into his bed.
They gave him what goes with cold in the nose,
And some more for cold in the head.

They wondered if wheezles could turn into measles,
If sneezles would turn into mumps;
They examined his chest for a rash, and the rest
Of his body for swelling and lumps.

They sent for some doctors in sneezles and wheezles
To tell them what ought to be done.
All sorts and conditions of famous physicians
Came hurrying round at a run.

They all made a note of state of his throat,
They asked if he suffered from thirst;
They asked if the sneezles came after the wheezles,
Or if the first sneezles came first.

They say “If you teasle a sneezle or wheezle,
A measle may easily grow.
But humour or pleazle the wheezle or sneezle,
The measle will certainly go.”

They expounded the reazles for sneezles and wheezles,
The manner of measles when new.
They said, “If he freezles in draughts and in breezles,
Then PHTHEEZLES may even ensue.”

Christopher Robin got up in the morning,
The sneezles had vanished away.
And the look of his eye seemed to say to the sky,
"Now, how to amuse them today?"

-- from Now We Are Six, by A.A. Milne
(music by H. Frasier-Simpson, sung by Frank Luther - optional)


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#144346 - 06/27/05 10:14 AM Re: Sneezles in history
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Wonderful!

I wonder if Alan Alexander pronounced this as 'theezles' or 'teezles'??

Goes to show modern hip-hop (or is it rap?) has nothin' on Milne, fo' shizzle...

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#144347 - 06/27/05 08:37 PM Re: Sneezles in history
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I wonder if Alan Alexander pronounced this as 'theezles' or 'teezles'?

Well, Frank Luther sang it as "theezles," and since Milne has alreay used up the "tea" sound in warning us not to teasle a sneezle or wheezle I suspect he meant it to be a real th, not a Germanic one...anyone around from Britian who might know the range of pronunciation? (Darn, where's that Henry Higgins when you need him?)


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#144348 - 06/29/05 07:06 PM Re: Sneezles in history
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doncher mean 'Enry 'Iggins?


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#144349 - 06/29/05 07:42 PM Re: Sneezles in history
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And I thought it was Enery Iggins.


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#144350 - 06/30/05 09:56 AM 'Enerys!
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"I'm 'er eyeth ol' man nymed 'Enery. 'Enery the eyeth I am!"

Hermans Hermits 1965, ne 1910 by Fred Murry and RP Weston (wickipedia).


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#144351 - 06/30/05 10:00 AM Stop?
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While were on like this - how's a bloke to 'write' a glottal stop? Glot'al?


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#181815 - 01/16/09 09:19 PM Re: Stop? [Re: Rainmaker]
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This thread has become wizened.
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#181819 - 01/17/09 03:18 AM Re: Stop? [Re: LukeJavan8]
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That's why we have our own Rainmaker.

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#181834 - 01/17/09 06:51 PM Re: Stop? [Re: Zed]
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We'll see if rainmaker gets involved to reawaken it.
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#181837 - 01/17/09 10:48 PM Re: Stop? [Re: LukeJavan8]
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I miss that guy.
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#181840 - 01/18/09 07:25 AM Re: Stop? [Re: LukeJavan8]
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Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8


We'll see if rainmaker gets involved to reawaken it.


somehow, I doubt this will happen. it was exactly two years ago today that he last posted.

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#181853 - 01/18/09 01:57 PM Re: Stop? [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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Originally Posted By: etaoin
I miss that guy.


You guys have been around so long, I'll bet there are many
you miss. I can see from reading thread that there were
some really fantastic discussions.
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#181856 - 01/18/09 04:33 PM Re: Stop? [Re: LukeJavan8]
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Originally Posted By: LukeJavan8
Originally Posted By: etaoin
I miss that guy.


You guys have been around so long, I'll bet there are many
you miss. I can see from reading thread that there were
some really fantastic discussions.


yeah. I recently had an acquaintance on another forum die, and it made me very sad. I had never met the man, hadn't even exchanged email with him, yet, I felt/feel the loss.

the internet is a very interesting place.
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#181858 - 01/18/09 05:23 PM Re: Stop? [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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It may sound trite, but it is sincere: I am sorry for your loss.
Yes the internet is really interesting as I am find out.
I am really enjoying this forum.
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#181861 - 01/18/09 07:03 PM Re: Stop? [Re: LukeJavan8]
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thank you, it helps.
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#183056 - 03/01/09 12:50 PM Re: Stop? [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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Rainmaker never reappeared. Sorry.
Anything ado on Flickr??
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#183083 - 03/02/09 11:27 AM Re: Stop? [Re: LukeJavan8]
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Quote:
Anything ado on Flickr??


...on that subject, I wonder whether Boards like this one devolve as flickr/tweeter/linkedin/myspace/classmates.com et al gather followings. They're slicker, glitzier, and I worry about our members drifting over, devoting more time there, at our expense.

Check your own behavior and see if my fears are groundless on not ?

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#183098 - 03/02/09 04:36 PM Re: Stop? [Re: wofahulicodoc]
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I guess I did not know anything happened on Flickr other
than the storing of pictures of which I have about 8, I believe.
I am not interested in glitz, it is the discussion on
words I like, so I don't find myself guilty of the drift
you mention. But I suppose if other things occur there
like "comments on You Tube", etc,. then I would suppose
you could be right in your assumptions. But that "stuff"
does not interest me.
Good point, however.
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#183099 - 03/02/09 04:57 PM Re: Stop? [Re: wofahulicodoc]
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>flickr/tweeter/linkedin/myspace/classmates.com et al

and esp. facebook!

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#183100 - 03/02/09 05:28 PM Re: Stop? [Re: tsuwm]
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poke
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#183116 - 03/02/09 09:01 PM Re: Stop? [Re: tsuwm]
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Originally Posted By: tsuwm
>flickr/tweeter/linkedin/myspace/classmates.com et al

and esp. facebook!


Ta. Couldn't remember the name. Must be something Freudian about that.

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#189320 - 02/15/10 05:19 PM Re: Sneezles in history [Re: Rainmaker]
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Ah, the ever conflicting difficulty of translating the concise and ever fascinating language of Medicine into comprehensible form for the Patient to most benefit from.
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#189456 - 02/22/10 05:25 PM Re: Sneezles in history [Re: Joanie 666]
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Good point to return this thread to its origins.
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#189663 - 02/28/10 09:02 PM Re: Sneezles in history [Re: LukeJavan8]
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OK. I'm too lazy to look it up, so what's the difference between "arteriosclerosis" and "atherosclerosis." Are they interchangeable? They both refer to the narrowing of some tube or another; the former seems to point to arteries, but what's the latter talking about?
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#189664 - 03/01/10 04:33 AM Re: Sneezles in history [Re: beck123]
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atherosclerosis
ath·er·o·scle·ro·sis (th-r-skl-rss) KEY

NOUN:
A form of arteriosclerosis characterized by the deposition of atheromatous plaques containing cholesterol and lipids on the innermost layer of the walls of large and medium-sized arteries.
ar·te·ri·o·scle·ro·sis (är-tîr--skl-rss) KEY

NOUN:
A chronic disease in which thickening, hardening, and loss of elasticity of the arterial walls result in impaired blood circulation. It develops with aging, and in hypertension, diabetes, hyperlipidemia, and other conditions.

If you keep this in your sideline you'll have most books in one click : onelook

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#189667 - 03/01/10 12:20 PM Re: Sneezles in history [Re: BranShea]
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aside to Bran..

copying the pronunciation(s) from that source is more confusing than helpful, I suspect, since you lose diacriticals and the KEY.

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#189670 - 03/01/10 02:36 PM Re: Sneezles in history [Re: tsuwm]
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aside to tsuwm..

Beck123 said he was lazy, so I took the trouble to copy the difference in meaning according to Am.Her. for those two words.
Roughly, I don't like to do more than is needed either. As 123 is a native speaker he won't have trouble with pronunciation anyway.
aside to *123.. I mentioned Onelook so you can do your own search.

What's more critical is that I don't know what diacriticals means nor the KEY.


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#189671 - 03/01/10 04:08 PM Re: Sneezles in history [Re: BranShea]
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I don't know what diacriticals means nor the KEY.

Diacriticals are the funny hats and slippers that some letters put on when visiting foreign lands, e.g., ā (an a with a macron), ă (an a with a breve), ą (an a with a ogonek), and č (a c with a haček). &c, &c.

The Key, I believe is a pronunciation key which maps symbols to sounds in a dictionary.

I, too, am quite lazy, but strive not to be ...
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#189672 - 03/01/10 04:19 PM Re: Funny hats and slippers [Re: zmjezhd]
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smile Ah, that! Gee, we have such a low-key word for diacriticals:
'reading signs'. Can't compete with diacriticals ever!

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#189673 - 03/01/10 05:42 PM Re: Funny hats and slippers [Re: BranShea]
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@ BranShea: Thanks for the link. Now, if I could only work up the energy to use it.

Meanwhile, it looks as though "atherosclerosis" is a subset of "arteriosclerosis," the latter of which (apparently) may have more than its most famous and cholesterolic cause.
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#189674 - 03/01/10 09:49 PM Re: Funny hats and slippers [Re: beck123]
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Is there anyone (including the President, obviously) who does
not have the cholesterolic problem in one form or another??
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#189684 - 03/02/10 02:52 PM Re: Funny hats and slippers [Re: LukeJavan8]
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including the President, obviously

What president would that be?

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#189698 - 03/03/10 06:23 AM Re: Funny hats and slippers [Re: olly]
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including the President, obviously

What president would that be?


That would be the president that just had a medical check that showed a slightly elevated cholesterol reading.

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#189708 - 03/03/10 11:55 AM Re: Funny hats and slippers [Re: Faldage]
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Truly. And yesterday at lunch had fried chicken and mac & cheese,
and told reporters: "don't tell my wife".
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#190283 - 04/04/10 09:26 PM it's all in your genes [Re: LukeJavan8]
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An important factor in whether you pay the price for your dietary indiscretions sooner, rather than later, is how carefully you chose your parents.

But seriously, folks.

Atherosclerosis emphasizes the material that clogs the vessels, a whitish, cheesy stuff officially called "atheroma."
Arteriosclerosis emphasizes the place where the clog is, namely the arteries.

As commonly used, there's a huge overlap between the two conditions.

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#202136 - 08/26/11 11:34 PM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: Rainmaker]
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done.
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#202143 - 08/27/11 11:49 AM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu]
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Been keeping you busy too. Using less used threads.
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#202149 - 08/27/11 09:50 PM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: Rainmaker]
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but its good for catching up on some conversation I've missed in the past but.

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#202459 - 09/15/11 10:50 PM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: ]
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notified
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#202544 - 09/21/11 08:36 PM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: LukeJavan8]
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notified

[from Old French notifier, from Latin notificāre to make known, from nōtus known + facere to make]

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#202555 - 09/22/11 04:03 AM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: ]
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As the wheel turns stupidity turns with it.

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#202560 - 09/22/11 08:07 AM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: Rainmaker]
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Idiot at work.

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#202571 - 09/22/11 11:32 AM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: Candy]
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I am done notifying Anu when spam occurs.
I am just ignoring it. When even the notifying causes so much
consternation, why bother?
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#202583 - 09/22/11 07:25 PM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: LukeJavan8]
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Notifying is fine Luke, but why tell the world afterwards? Don't be upset that it annoys some people you are doing a good job but notifying people that you have notified people is over notifying don't ya think? I for one have had enough of this game hence why I tried to bring it back to words by posting the notify def.
Lets move on!

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#202586 - 09/22/11 07:57 PM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: olly]
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The point of telling that you have notified Anu is to save other people the effort of notifying Anu and also to save Anu the bother of fielding all the notifications.

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#202587 - 09/22/11 07:59 PM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: olly]
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Two comments were on the thread before mine, why pick on me?

I was only doing what I saw others doing when they "notified"
of spam.


I thought that was the point, Faldage, thanks.


Edited by LukeJavan8 (09/22/11 08:00 PM)
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#202597 - 09/23/11 04:06 PM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: LukeJavan8]
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We know by now that Luke will notify Anu before most of us will even have seen the spam, so if he's willing to continue to do so, the notification "notified" would no longer be necessary or useful, unpleasant as it is. That would be a real good job.

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#202600 - 09/23/11 08:07 PM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: BranShea]
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I am not willing, and don't care about the spam.
I am not a policeman.
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#202604 - 09/24/11 10:41 AM Re: fair enough [Re: LukeJavan8]
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OK.

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#202605 - 09/24/11 10:42 AM Re: fair enough [Re: LukeJavan8]
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Prima.

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#202607 - 09/24/11 11:14 AM Re: fair enough [Re: BranShea]
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OK
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#202658 - 09/28/11 06:31 AM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: ]
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Notified. OK?

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#202662 - 09/28/11 11:06 AM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: Faldage]
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#202666 - 09/28/11 07:47 PM Re: Wasted and dry [Re: LukeJavan8]
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Your links broken. I have notified the URL of Charterhouse, AKA the Link Police.

Just in case: wink
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