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#14157 - 01/06/02 02:56 PM Re: Sine glomere
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Jeesh!

I tole ya the Latin word. I also tole ya the Latin word was way too late to be of any use. Parbly the Greek wouln't do ya no good neither. Minoan, whatever it was, and don' nobody know, not even if it were Indo-European, Hamito-Semitic or sommat entirely else, is a whole nother ballpark (or cricket pitch if you'd druther) an' totally unknown. Ain' no way you gone get to tell Ariadne to dump that Theseus loser. An' if ya wants ta tell Theseus sommat yer gone is haveta use sommat other than Modren Greek; ya'll haveta know it in Ionian or Dorian or whatever it was they spoke in Athens time back way back,

Jeesh!


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#14158 - 01/06/02 04:29 PM Re: Sine glomere
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Dear Faldage: My point is this. What was the source of the English version of the legend? I would like to find it, to see if I could find the word that some idiot used a Germanic root for, when he could, I'm sure, have made a nice coinage from the classical root. Rooti-toot-toot.Cocking a snook.
I've been having fun looking, but have not found anything worth posting about. Hoped you might succeed where I have been unable to.


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#14159 - 01/06/02 06:33 PM Re: Sine glomere
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the word that some idiot used a Germanic root for, when he could, I'm sure, have made a nice coinage from the classical root.

You want someone should make up a word from a classical root just because the story came from a classical source? When we have a perfectly good word in English? Clue, BTW, traces back to the same IE root, gel- that spawned the Latin glomer-.

OK. but be careful what you ask for:

Ariadne gave Theseus a glom that he might find his way out the maze after the Minotaur made mincemeat out of him. Theseus glommed on to it with the knowledge that he wan't gone be mincemeat and that he would make Ariadne pay for her evil ways.

There, I hope you're healthy.


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#14160 - 01/06/02 06:44 PM .
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#14161 - 01/07/02 12:37 PM Re: Sine glomere
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Dear Max: I still wonder what Greek or Latin text was the source of the legend in English.


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#14162 - 01/07/02 02:28 PM .
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#14163 - 01/07/02 04:00 PM Re: Sine glomere
wwh Offline
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I was hoping our illustrious contributor NicholasW might be able to provide that.


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#14164 - 01/11/02 06:52 AM Re: Unus glomus
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Dr. Bill wonders what Greek or Latin text was the source of the legend in English.

Graves cites Apollodorus, Plutarch (who quotes Philochorus, Simonides et al.), Scholiast, Pausanias, Callimachus, Catullus et al.


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#14165 - 01/11/02 02:52 PM Re: Unus glomus
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Thanks for the "clews" Faldage. I anticipate problems untangling that mountain of manuscripts.


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#14166 - 01/11/02 03:21 PM Re: Alterus glomus
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I get all my stuff about this from Robert Graves: The Greek Myths. Look it up at amazon.com. Then buy it from your local independent bookstore.


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