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Page 2 of 6 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 > Topic Options #177107 - 05/22/08 09:16 PM Re: Joseph Campbell and One Eye [Re: Faldage] Faldage Carpal Tunnel Registered: 12/01/00 Posts: 13653  Originally Posted By: Faldage FWIW, Robert Graves thought the whole one-eye thang was because they wore eyepatches, being blacksmiths and all, to keep sparks out of their eyes. Cyclops means (most likely) round-eye.<br><br> Looking back over The Greek Myths I see that Graves actually said they were bronzesmiths and that Cyclops meant 'ring-eyed'.  Originally Posted By: Graves, The Greek Myths The Cyclopes seem to have been a guild of Early Helladic bronzesmiths. Cyclops means 'ring-eyed', and they are likely to have been tattooed with concentric rings on the forehead, in honour of the sun, the source of their furnace fires; the Thracians continued to tattoo themselves until Classical times. ... The Cyclopes were one-eyed in the sense that smiths often shade one eye with a patch against flying sparks. Top #177115 - 05/23/08 09:25 AM Re: Joseph Campbell and One Eye [Re: twosleepy] Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/24/02 Posts: 7184 Loc: Vermont  Originally Posted By: twosleepy The Wicked Witch of the West had only one eye... erk? _________________________ formerly known as etaoin... Top #177118 - 05/23/08 10:26 AM Re: in regione cæcorum rex est luscus [Re: The Pook] zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Registered: 08/13/05 Posts: 3269 Loc: R'lyeh Yes that's why I said it's possible. But, why doesn't Cyclops have large tusks? Well, I never said I held the oliphant theory plausible. I'm more than willing to concede that the "origin" of Cyclops as a character in a story is unknown, and, maybe even, unknowable. Most folks do so hate a vacuum or lacuna, and do try almost anything to fill it. The etymology of the name though seems pretty straightforward: Κυκλωψ (Kuklops) < Greek κυκλος (kuklos) 'circle; wheel' + ωψ (ōps) 'eye'. I was reminded, offtopically, of English louche 'morally suspect' from Old French losche 'squint-eyed' < Latin luscus 'one-eyed'. Come to think of it, wheel-eyed or round-eyed doesn't necessarily imply one-eyed. Maybe the Cyclops was like the dog with eyes as big as saucers in Andersen's The Tinder Box. _________________________ Ceci n'est pas un seing. Top #177128 - 05/23/08 08:11 PM Re: in regione cæcorum rex est luscus [Re: zmjezhd] The Pook old hand Registered: 02/20/08 Posts: 1067 Loc: Tasmania  Originally Posted By: zmjezhd Come to think of it, wheel-eyed or round-eyed doesn't necessarily imply one-eyed. Maybe the Cyclops was like the dog with eyes as big as saucers in Andersen's The Tinder Box. He thinks so, does he preciousss, gollum gollum, perhaps he may be right preciouses, but what has it got in its etymological pocketses we wonders we does..." 8) Edited by The Pook (05/23/08 08:11 PM) Top #177130 - 05/23/08 09:32 PM Re: in regione cæcorum rex est luscus [Re: The Pook] zmjezhd Carpal Tunnel Registered: 08/13/05 Posts: 3269 Loc: R'lyeh but what has it got in its etymological pocketses we wonders Cur? Ecce: Origines Sancti Isidori Hispalensis. _________________________ Ceci n'est pas un seing. Top #177131 - 05/23/08 11:21 PM Re: in regione cæcorum rex est luscus [Re: zmjezhd] The Pook old hand Registered: 02/20/08 Posts: 1067 Loc: Tasmania  Originally Posted By: zmjezhd but what has it got in its etymological pocketses we wonders Cur? Ecce: Origines Sancti Isidori Hispalensis. Holy Spanish Goths Batman! ...um does this have some obscure connection with Smeagol that I am too dense to see? Or is it just one of your favourite sources? Top #177133 - 05/24/08 06:11 AM Re: Joseph Campbell and One Eye [Re: Wordwind] BranShea Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/23/06 Posts: 5249 Loc: Netherlands, the Hague  Originally Posted By: Wordwind They are a group without rule, each one of them being a law unto himself with no higher law. Could the single eye somehow represent this? A limited point of view? All solo?<br><br>Just wondering...<br><br> (a passage where Achilles, protaganist in "Omeros" gets caught by tourists' cameras after a hard day of fishing at sea: "Achilles then cries against their clicking cameras and throws an imaginary lance. It was the cry of a warrior who looses his one soul to the click of a cyclops". (Nobelprize winner 1992 Derek Walcott) The metaphor of the camera as a modern cyclops. Thinking of our news hungry hordes of camera men I like to link it to this quote from Wordwind. Edited by BranShea (05/25/08 05:19 AM) Edit Reason: addition Top #177135 - 05/24/08 11:02 AM Re: Joseph Campbell and One Eye [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu] twosleepy old hand Registered: 02/28/08 Posts: 876 Loc: western NY  Originally Posted By: etaoin  Originally Posted By: twosleepy The Wicked Witch of the West had only one eye... erk? couldn't find "erk" anywhere... Top #177146 - 05/25/08 09:51 PM Re: Joseph Campbell and One Eye [Re: twosleepy] Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Registered: 06/24/02 Posts: 7184 Loc: Vermont  Originally Posted By: twosleepy  Originally Posted By: etaoin  Originally Posted By: twosleepy The Wicked Witch of the West had only one eye... erk? couldn't find "erk" anywhere... heh sorry, it was just a random expulsion. what's up with the WWW only having one eye? _________________________ formerly known as etaoin... Top #177147 - 05/25/08 10:23 PM Re: Joseph Campbell and One Eye [Re: Buffalo Shrdlu] olly old hand Registered: 12/18/06 Posts: 932 Loc: Auckland, New Zealand  Originally Posted By: etaoin what's up with the WWW only having one eye? Mebbe in her downtime she was a blacksmith! Apparently her good eye had telescopic vision, kinda like Superman but not. Top Page 2 of 6 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 > Previous Topic Index Next Topic Preview Hop to: General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. 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