#137688 - 01/22/05 05:46 PM
Participants needed: native speakers of English
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stranger
Registered: 01/22/05
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Loc: California, USA
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Hi,
we (a couple of researchers from the linguistics department at Stanford University) are looking for a participants in an online study on English questions. Only NATIVE SPEAKERs of ENGLISH can participate (if you're not a native speaker, pls refrain from participating).
We are interested in your native speaker intuitions (not prescriptive rules of grammar) regarding certain types of questions and statements. This is an exploratory study, so unfortunately we cannot afford to offer any funding.
If you nevertheless would like to help us (and the progress of science ;-), please send us an email at:
suvresearch_prin2n3@yahoo.com
We will then point you to our online experiment,
Thx a lot for your interest!
WH-research group,
Linguistics Department, Stanford University
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#137690 - 01/22/05 06:09 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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Anonymous
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boy ;-), actually a friend of mine who is quite active in this list recommended posting on this list to me, since people here would be interested in language in general.
If that is not the case, I apologize for spaming this list. In any case, if you ARE interested in language, maybe you will find our experiments interesting.
Regards,
Florian
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#137692 - 01/22/05 07:13 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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Carpal Tunnel
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Just out of curiosity, why would Stanford have a Yahoo address?
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#137694 - 01/22/05 07:25 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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journeyman
Registered: 11/18/04
Posts: 95
Loc: New Hampshire
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I'd say Word has a point.
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#137695 - 01/22/05 07:37 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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Carpal Tunnel
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Oh, tSunny, I was humoring you.
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#137697 - 01/22/05 08:00 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of English
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veteran
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What is it folks, are we becoming cowed by con men to the point where we we hide in our caves in fear of latter day Neanderthals?
So now I, the milum, will step out from behind our rock and confront these fast talking apemen with raised club.
Stand back, women, children, and girley men, see now!
The great milum goes forth!
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#137698 - 01/22/05 08:04 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of English
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Carpal Tunnel
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Well, if it's legit, I'd be interested in learning more about it and possibly participating.
Milo, you wearing an animal skin or a fig leaf?
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#137699 - 01/22/05 08:10 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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stranger
Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 10
Loc: California, USA
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Guys, calm down (but thx for the publicity, hehe). I explained to wordwind why we use a yahoo address (it's a shared account for all researchers working on this project).
If you look me up on the Stanford pages, you will find Florian Jaeger, Linguistics department, etc.
Whoever is interested in participating in our experiment (native speakers only!) will hear from us over the next couple of days,
Florian
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#137700 - 01/22/05 08:19 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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stranger
Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 10
Loc: California, USA
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=), to make it even clearer that I am legit I changed the text on my website
http://www.stanford.edu/~tiflo/
to include the email address I gave in my post in this forum.
Nice club though,
Florian
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#137701 - 01/22/05 08:44 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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Carpal Tunnel
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Thank you, tiflo. Your site is impressive, to say the least. You will probably have a few here interested in participating. Thanks for fishing here.
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#137702 - 01/22/05 08:49 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 06/24/02
Posts: 7184
Loc: Vermont
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we'll wait with baited breath...
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#137704 - 01/23/05 04:06 PM
Re: I'm all for *it.
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/15/00
Posts: 4757
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> But.... what if I speak *American?
Just try harder.
> "we will need native speakers of American English."
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#137706 - 01/24/05 03:04 AM
Re: I'm all for *it.
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Carpal Tunnel
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#137708 - 01/24/05 06:47 AM
Re: I'm all for *it.
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/15/00
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[grey]gray[/grey]
Hard to tell from here, it's engraved on a grey blackground.
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#137710 - 01/24/05 12:24 PM
Re: I'm all for *it.
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Carpal Tunnel
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If you had been born into an English-speaking family who lived in a non-English-speaking country, you'd still be considered to be a native speaker of English if that was your natural language.
It reminds me of musicians I've heard speaking of their 'natural' instrument, meaning the one on which they'd first learned to play--that is, if they'd learned primarily on one instument in the beginning of their work. When I studied violin late in life, I automatically *saw and *heard things pianistically, and it took a long while before I began to *see and *hear thing violinistically.
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#137712 - 01/24/05 04:23 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of English
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 06/24/02
Posts: 7184
Loc: Vermont
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>Jim Bisso
damn! I knew something sounded familiar...
what's the time commitment to this project?
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#137713 - 01/24/05 07:37 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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stranger
Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 10
Loc: California, USA
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It's about 20 minutes including reading the instructions,
Florian
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#137714 - 01/24/05 07:39 PM
Re: I'm all for *it.
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stranger
Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 10
Loc: California, USA
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lol, American, British, Canadian, and even NZ English is most welcome ;-). You will be asked to name where you have grown up anyway (this is important for our analysis later).
Florian
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#137715 - 01/24/05 07:41 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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stranger
Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 10
Loc: California, USA
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Thx. I will let them know if I meet them (will they know who AnaStrophic is? =)
Florian
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#137716 - 01/24/05 09:30 PM
Re: I'm all for *it.
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enthusiast
Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 273
Loc: NZ
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In reply to:
lol, American, British, Canadian, and even NZ English is most welcome ;-). You will be asked to name where you have grown up anyway (this is important for our analysis later).
I wasn't asked where I grew up. The instructions email said that I would be asked where I acquired my idiolect, but I was not. I also had to say that "I am a native speaker of American English" on the consent form in order to participate. The project itself was interesting, but those were black marks against it, in my opinion. I hope that that the research itself is managed better than the implementation of the survey was.
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#137717 - 01/24/05 09:34 PM
Re: I'm all for *it.
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stranger
Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 10
Loc: California, USA
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We already talked about this. The instructions (if read carefully =), tell you that you should enter where you grew up into the field "Region" once the experiment starts. BTW, we tried to improve the instruction a bit more. so, maybe it's clearer now.
Thx for your participation!
Florian
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#137718 - 01/25/05 05:28 AM
Re: I'm all for *it.
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/15/00
Posts: 4757
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> even NZ English
sheesh, you are sitting the bar low :)
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#137720 - 01/25/05 07:09 AM
Re: I'm all for *it.
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/15/00
Posts: 4757
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My ears mebbe blunt, but I thwart Oz might be more typified by the Seeed~neeeee sound (going the other way), nah?
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#137721 - 01/26/05 06:42 PM
Re: I'm all for *it.
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newbie
Registered: 09/27/01
Posts: 33
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Dear teflo, please overlook the recalcitrant here.
I, for one, would very much like to be a part of your study.
And please note, although themilum has been making a liberal use of my computer tonight, believe me, I am not he. (Thank God!)
I will email your test site my email address now.
I think that yours is a wonderful study.
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#137722 - 02/07/05 07:45 PM
Re: I'm all for *it.
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stranger
Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 10
Loc: California, USA
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Aye, that post is from some time back (sorry, for not having checked back earlier). Thx for participating (to you and everyone else in this forum!). So far, approximately 50 people (including several from this forum) have participated in one of our experiments.
That means, we are almost done - I will post one more call for our second experiment here in second for those brave souls among you who simply can't get enough of our lovely Java applets ;-).
Cheers again,
Florian
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#137723 - 02/07/05 07:58 PM
MORE participants needed & Thank you
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stranger
Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 10
Loc: California, USA
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Hi again, Believe it or not, but you'll have yet another chance to participate in our studies on questions and statements in English (yes, any kind of English - even Australian English, as long as you are a native speaker of it [I'm afraid, just being native and a speaker but not a native speaker won't be enough]). So, hoping that you don't mind my occasional stopping by too much, I give you another yahoo address to which you can express you interest (just send us a message with the subject line "interested in study"): suvresearch@yahoo.comsome of you have already participated in that experiment. If you want to help us anyway you can participate in whatever experiment you did not already participate in (the email address for the other experiment is suvresearch_prin2n3@yahoo.com). Thank you again for all your help. Florian WH-Research Group, Linguistics Department, Stanford University
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#137725 - 02/07/05 11:28 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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enthusiast
Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 273
Loc: NZ
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More than once on this site, people have offered workarounds, such as http://www.bugmenot.com, why not use them? Or get a throw-away email address specfically for such online use? Asking for an email first is a simple device that helps reduce the rate of bogus or automated participants. There are so many practical steps that can be taken to accoommodate this perfectly reasonable request, without resorting to plaintive hand-wringing.
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#137726 - 02/08/05 05:38 AM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/15/00
Posts: 4757
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> plaintive hand-wringing
oooh, dead man walkin'! Even though they're good suggestions, just as well you're in Australia... :)
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#137728 - 02/08/05 01:23 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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enthusiast
Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 273
Loc: NZ
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Aah, so it's a matter of acting on your principles. I've heard of them, but could never be bothered acquiring any.
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#137729 - 02/08/05 01:42 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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enthusiast
Registered: 06/29/01
Posts: 273
Loc: NZ
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In reply to:
just as well you're in Australia... :)
The good thing about being an Australian male is that, no matter how big the rau, you never have to say sorry.
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#137730 - 02/08/05 04:36 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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stranger
Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 10
Loc: California, USA
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Jackie,
Thx for your honest reply. We do not post the link in order to make sure that people don't just "click and try" (one of the disadvantages of web experiments is that people may just want to check out how it looks). Having lots of aborted experiment trials doesn't look good if one has to write up the results.
I assure you that your email address will not be not be given to others or used for anything but emailing you the link to the experiment (like all experiments involving people, we are monitored by the human subject board of our university [as you will see in case you decide to participate]).
Also, you don't HAVE to participate after you send us an email - nobody is monitoring that. We just prefer to know where our participants heard from us (that's why we ask you to email us first before we give you the link).
I hope that answers your questions, which I very much understand (I have similar doubts about most cases where somebody wants my email address),
Florian
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#137731 - 04/07/05 07:51 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of English
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newbie
Registered: 03/29/05
Posts: 31
Loc: California
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Dear tsuwm,
I once was an over-qualified member of a group called Mensa whose founder said that its members were those who, "wanted to have their heads examined" which they had demonstrated no doubt by the very act of having taken 'IQ' tests. Heh heh.
Well though more modest, this seems similar. They are simply looking for those who wish to have their linguistic intuitions examined. If they can't pay in coin of the realm though, perhaps they could offer a linguistic intuition measure in lieu of payment in filthy lucre.
BraveLad
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#137733 - 04/08/05 06:06 AM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of English
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addict
Registered: 03/22/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Northern Ontario, Canada
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#137734 - 04/08/05 06:33 AM
Re: Help!
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 6511
Loc: lower upstate New York
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#137735 - 04/08/05 10:48 AM
Re: Help!
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newbie
Registered: 03/29/05
Posts: 31
Loc: California
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At least I think I understand HHGG. I say it all the time. It means 'He Has Gone Gonzo!'
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#137736 - 04/08/05 10:54 AM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of English
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newbie
Registered: 03/29/05
Posts: 31
Loc: California
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You said, "BTITWIWSWAITJ."
Are you a native English speaker? I am a Native American English speaker (at least as West Indian as Ward Churchill).
But maybe that was something else. I used to work with a programmer who started to speak only in the first letters of words. He started with simple greetings. The frightening thing is that I grew to understand him over 50 percent of the time!
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#137739 - 04/14/05 12:01 PM
Re:Pomerania
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 1692
Loc: UK
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Nah. Corgis are gas fitters.
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#137740 - 04/14/05 05:32 PM
Re:Pomerania
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/15/00
Posts: 4757
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That's gonna stump anyone outwith these septic isles, dixbie :)
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#137741 - 04/14/05 06:58 PM
Re:Pomerania
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addict
Registered: 03/22/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Northern Ontario, Canada
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Unless you have the redoubtable Dr. Bill to explain stuff to you!
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#137744 - 04/17/05 04:25 PM
Re:Pomerania
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/14/01
Posts: 2379
Loc: New York City
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"Cogis could be gas fitters"
Can someone tell me what on Earth you're talking about?
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#137749 - 04/19/05 06:12 AM
Re:Pomerania
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/15/00
Posts: 4757
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> stick with dachshunds
ew, there's an unpleasant image!
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#137750 - 05/13/05 07:59 AM
Re:Pomerania
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/06/02
Posts: 1692
Loc: UK
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FYI:
CORGI - Confederation for the Registration of Gas Installers.
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#137751 - 06/12/06 04:31 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of English
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Anonymous
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I find it strange that someone who suposedly studies linguistics does not use proper English himself. Look at his abreviations, and the capitolazation is all over the place.
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#137752 - 06/12/06 05:31 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis *DELETED* *DELETED*
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Carpal Tunnel
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#137753 - 06/12/06 06:08 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Engli
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 06/24/02
Posts: 7184
Loc: Vermont
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or
> suposedly
and
> abreviations
I find it strange that someone would come to a forum to criticize and not even bother to register...
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#137754 - 06/13/06 12:40 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of Englis
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 03/15/00
Posts: 6511
Loc: lower upstate New York
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Quote:
I find it strange that someone who suposedly studies linguistics does not use proper English himself. Look at his abreviations, and the capitolazation is all over the place.
capitolazation 
I find it interesting that an anonymous poster digs up something from a long long time ago. Which was a legitimate post, all CAPS aside.
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#137763 - 01/22/07 09:46 AM
Re: Parts needed: Native speakers of movie lines
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enthusiast
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 293
Loc: Orlando
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My favorite line from that same movie, though, is:
"Boring conversation anyway.." Actually that sequence that leads up to it makes that the punchline.
I was there, in 1977, standing on line at the Lowe's Astor Plaza in New York; among the first to see Star Wars . That was long before it became a "sensation". A group of us, who were fans of the director from his earlier work (he was an unknown to the general public) had read about the movie being made in American Cinematographer magazine and made a long drive from Southern New Jersey to see the opening.
Not yet a Blockbuster.
We stayed in the theater to see it a second time (you were able to do that back in the 70's). And Movie theaters in America were not the shoeboxes of today.
</reminiscing>
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#186492 - 08/14/09 08:21 AM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of English
[Re: Faldage]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 06/24/02
Posts: 7184
Loc: Vermont
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the spammers are getting cleverer...
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#186493 - 08/14/09 08:32 AM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of English
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veteran
Registered: 01/23/02
Posts: 1523
Loc: Virginia, USA
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the spammers are getting cleverer... And more irritating.
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#186502 - 08/14/09 07:42 PM
Re: Participants needed: native speakers of English
[Re: tsuwm]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 06/24/02
Posts: 7184
Loc: Vermont
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and are even, now, backtracking and removing evidence! no, I notified Anu, and he removed the post and poster. unless I'm totally missing the irony, which is certainly possible!
Edited by Buffalo Shrdlu (08/14/09 07:43 PM)
Edit Reason: added the irony bit.
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_________________________here ever thought 'Jackie' and 'scruffy' belonged in the same sentence, regardless of ancestry. Perhaps looking up "I gotta bad feeling about this" and "Laugh it up, fuzzball" would be more enlightening. Those are pretty old movies now but still have one of the most inspiring characters ever.
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