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(Be careful what you wish for; you just might get it.)
Well I stand corrected! But it does make more sense when you examine the word "Logos" (from www.m-w.com):
1 : the divine wisdom manifest in the creation, government, and redemption of the world and often identified with the second person of the Trinity
2 : reason that in ancient Greek philosophy is the controlling principle in the universe
Perhaps the early Greek Christian authors naturally were adding Hellenistic philosophy to the monotheistic religion they had acquired.
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the second person of the Trinity
second "person"? Oh... maybe M-W is talking about grammar here.
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talking grammar??
the father, the son, and the holy spirit
--2nd person---^
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--2nd person---^
And the father, whose name is sometimes translated as "I am that I am."
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Can a real object "symbolize" another real object such as the natural association of Mount Fuji with the nation of Japan? If so then is "Mount Fuji" a word?
All these musings on whether a "word" which ordinary readers recognize as a "word" is actually a "word" are way over my head, but perhaps we have can agree that "Mt Fuji" is a word if it stands for "Japan" even if we can't agree that it is a word if it stands for Mt Fuji alone.
When "Mt Fuji" stands for "Japan", it is a synecdoche [defined as follows].
3 entries found for synecdoche.
syn·ec·do·che ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-nkd-k)
n.
A figure of speech in which a part is used for the whole (as hand for sailor), the whole for a part (as the law for police officer), the specific for the general (as cutthroat for assassin), the general for the specific (as thief for pickpocket), or the material for the thing made from it (as steel for sword).
If "Mt Fuji" standing alone [i.e. for itself] isn't a "word", what is it?
And why does this distinction matter if an ordinary reader understands precisely what we mean by this pairing of ... uh, palabras?
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... in ancient Greek philosophy is the controlling principle in the universe
Perhaps the early Greek Christian authors naturally were adding Hellenistic philosophy to the monotheistic religion they had acquired. - Alex Williams
I think you are right.
And why does this distinction matter if an ordinary reader understands precisely what we mean by this pairing of ... uh, palabras? - Wordminstrel
I'd say the distinction doesn't matter, Wordminstrel, for those who want to go through life as cattle; dimly munching their days away, never a contemplative thought about the nature of their existence.
By what you write here it is apparent that you have a clear, precise, well-ordered mind. Think of the thoughts that you could think if you could think in words that weren't so fuzzy.
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If "Mt Fuji" standing alone [i.e. for itself] isn't a "word", what is it?
I suppose this question might be relevant if we were talking about the word(s) mount and Fuji (or, for that matter, Fujiyama) and not the ding-an-sich.
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Exactly, Faldage. Your acute perception is worthy of a big ding of your own dong. 
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acute perception
Sometimes it's the job of a Fool to state the obvious.
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dimly munching their days away, never a contemplative thought about the nature of their existence
Pray tell, Amemeba, what contemplative reveries could be more bovine than musing on something which is utterly empty-headed?
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