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#128437 - 05/10/04 08:36 AM intelligence vs intellect
reebecca Offline
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What is the difference between the two?


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#128438 - 05/10/04 08:54 AM Re: intelligence vs intellect
wsieber Offline
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At the risk of getting lost at sea in metaphor, I suggest: intellect is the motor, and intelligence is the power delivered by this motor (for better or worse).


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#128439 - 05/10/04 09:42 AM Re: intelligence vs intellect
reebecca Offline
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Thank You for your reply. It seems to make sense. Where my struggle began from was the usage of the adjectives, i.e. what would be the distinction between say an intelligent person and an intellectual person. How, if at all, does the motor methaphor transfer to that situation?
An intellectual person has the ability(motor) and intelligent person actually uses it(delivering the power)?
(please excuse the overuse of parentheses and question marks)


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#128440 - 05/10/04 10:18 AM Re: intelligence vs intellect
jheem Offline
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To me, intellectual has a slightly more pejorative connotation to it than intelligent. Interestingly, the etymologies show that both words come from the same verb in Latin: intellect is from the past particple and intelligence is from the present particple. You might want to look at the synonym section of this entry:

http://www.bartleby.com/61/84/I0178400.html


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#128441 - 05/10/04 10:43 AM Re: intelligence vs intellect
AnnaStrophic Offline
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Welcome, Reebecca.

"Intellect" suggests to me a type of intelligence. You can be intelligent without being intellectual, but not vice-versa.


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#128442 - 05/10/04 12:23 PM Re: intelligence vs intellect
Capfka Offline
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Oh, I dunno, ASp. I've met a lot of intellectuals who didn't seem to be all that intelligent ... an intellectual will think and think about a problem but may well still come to a nonsensical although potentially strictly logical answer.

Welcome, Reebecca. Good question.


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#128443 - 05/10/04 04:11 PM Re: intelligence vs intellect
musick Offline
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...nonsensical althought potentially strictly logical answer.

Just as a *sensical answer may be potentially strictly illogical!

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I like wsieber's perspective. Neither function on thier own plane without the operation of the other. What one does with either is not (really) part of the difference between them.


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#128444 - 05/10/04 08:06 PM Re: intelligence vs intellect
Faldage Offline
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both words come from the same verb in Latin

Speaking of double-dipping.


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#128445 - 05/11/04 01:07 AM Re: intelligence vs intellect
wsieber Offline
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intellectual has a slightly more pejorative connotation to it than intelligent - Yeahbut, this is a secondary evolution of the word "intellectual", quite separate from "intellect". I even suspect that "intellectual", as a noun, entered English independently from French, whereupon it was devalued by the pragmatists.


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#128446 - 05/11/04 02:51 AM Re: intelligence vs intellect
reebecca Offline
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Thanks for all your replies.
I did try to work from the roots of the word: intelligence coming from the present participle of inter- and legere perhaps denoting the present action of collecting/perceiving 'knowledge', while intellect, from the past participle of the same Latin term, perhaps referring more to the processing of that knowledge that follows its collection/perception... all in all it lead me into a big mental knot and, ultimately, to this board.
I would however have to disagree with jheem-based on gut feeling, I definitely would not name intellectual as the pejorative of the two.



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