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#12550 - 12/09/00 07:29 PM A Baker's dozen away from ??
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While looking around for a transcript of the chat session (which I hope will be available soon), I noticed that Jackie is sitting at 1087 posts. Thirteen more until ?? Let's make sure the vent does not pass quietly people.


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#12551 - 12/09/00 07:39 PM Re: A Baker's dozen away from ??
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I am looking for the transcript as well - not available yet.
Yes Jackie - hurry up!



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#12552 - 12/09/00 08:26 PM Re: A Baker's dozen aw'a??
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Re note of Max Q --Jackie is sitting at 1087 posts. Thirteen more until ?? Let's make sure the vent does not pass quietly

Let us vent by trumpeting the triumph. Go Jackie! Go! Go! GO! Onward !
Aloha, rah rah
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#12553 - 12/10/00 01:04 AM Re: A Baker's dozen away from ??
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MaxieQ reckons: Thirteen more until ??

?? indeed. What is the potential outcome for our Jackie. Some possibilities ....

Ancestor
Primordial
The Missing Link
Past Tense
Future Perfect
Pluperfect
Old Fart/ess
Prima Inter Pares
Elder Statesthing
Word Warrior
God's Hand Maiden
The Right Hand of God
The New No. 2 (anyone understand this one?)
Imperatorix
Cecilia Rhodes
Pontifex Maxima
The Last Worderess
Numero Uno
HAL
Deconstructionist Philosopher In Residence

Okay, that last one was really silly. I'll stop now.

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#12554 - 12/10/00 01:37 AM Re: A Baker's dozen away from ??
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Imperatorix

There is nothing like total ignorance to give one a certain reckless, or indeed feckless, audacity. Ought not the word in question be "Imperatrix"? Anyway, keep up your average of more than 5 posts a day and you'll be joining Jackie in Verbhalla in no time!




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#12555 - 12/10/00 01:45 AM Re: A Baker's dozen away from ??
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Earlier today I received a missive from our recalcitrant raconteuse, promising to send me swiftly on a journey to the undiscovered country, from whose bourn no traveller returns. In light of this, before Jackie's bodkin makes my quietus, I wish to celebrate reaching the halfway point in my transition from addict to old hand. Since Jackie is as good as her word, this may well be the last you hear from me.


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#12556 - 12/10/00 02:00 AM Re: A Baker's dozen away from ??
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Max plorne-queedled: Ought not the word in question be "Imperatrix"?

Yes, it ought. And the last mistake I ever made was in 1932. Well-spotted.

An average or more than 5 posts a day? Big brother is watching, isn't he?

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#12557 - 12/10/00 02:41 AM Re: A Baker's dozen away from ??
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Uppercase apteryx opined: An average or more than 5 posts a day? Big brother is watching, isn't he?

You betcha. Contact me for permission to engage in a little artsem, if you're made of the right stuff.

The truth is that ever since posting "Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics" (I would post a link, but I can't be bothered), I have been following people's progress. Yours has been gratifyingly rapid - kind of like the Wellington back-line on the proverbial "good day."




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#12558 - 12/10/00 04:16 AM Re: A Baker's dozen away from ??
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Quordlepleen maxed out: Yours has been gratifyingly rapid - kind of like the Wellington back-line on the proverbial "good day."

Support Otago myself. Wellington is too erratic. At least Otago loses consistently.

Perhaps I should take a leaf out of Hot-Black Desiato's tax accountant's book?

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#12559 - 12/10/00 08:44 AM Re: imperatrix
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what's all this then?
this word is first cited in 1623; to wit, Cockeram, Imperatrix, shee that commandeth -- not to put too fine a point on it, SWMBO.

-joe friday (sergeant, strange loop police)


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#12560 - 12/10/00 11:54 AM Re: imperatrix
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tsuwm hath said: what's all this then?
this word is first cited in 1623; to wit, Cockeram, Imperatrix, shee that commandeth -- not to put too fine a point on it, SWMBO.

-joe friday (sergeant, strange loop police)


(Imperatorix/Imperatrix) Either will do. Which would you prefer Jackie to be called? Imperatrix was used on coins during Vicky's long and undisputed innings. Unlike us, who are almost always getting called for LBW.

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#12561 - 12/12/00 04:52 AM Re: imperatrix
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(Imperatorix/Imperatrix) Either will do. Which would you prefer Jackie to be called? Imperatrix was used on coins during Vicky's long and undisputed innings

There are two points, here.
First, and most important, since it is 'on thread', I don't approve of any of the suggestions given so far for Jackie's title. I believe that, as she is of a quality that cannot be transcended, and as a tribute to her unique position on this board, we should adopt the Celtic tradition of bestowing on her the accolade of THE Jackie.


Second, on a minor note, I have to dispute this belief that "Vicky's ... innings" were "undisputed". The South Africans disputed it very well - and pretty effectively for quite a while. The Irish disputed it throughout her reign (and before and since - nothing personal to Victoria herself - just the institution she represented) - with a certain amount of sympathy from the Scotish Nationalists.

Even in England, she was not very popular much before the 1860s, and there were frequent - and serious - calls for a Republic.
It was only in her latter years that she became sanctified at home - (but not by the S.Africans!)


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#12562 - 12/12/00 10:57 AM Re: imperatrix
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>Unlike us, who are almost always getting called for LBW.

LBW?
loosely bowled wicket?
lusy's beer wallah??
loose bowels whelm?!
what?



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#12563 - 12/12/00 11:41 AM Re: imperatrix
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Hurrah for someone else who doesn't know about cricket, which has to be the most boring game in the world after baseball.
(says he, hastily digging himself a blast-proof shelter that is unasailable from all directions! )

LBW = Leg Before Wicket

If you prevent the ball from striking the wicket by getting your leg in the way - whether accidently or on purpose. If the Umpire calls this, then you are "out."

Why such a sensible defense should be penalised is beyond me - but then , so are most of the arcane rules of cricket.

I mean - it takes courage to put any part of your body in the path of a cricket ball; harm can come to a young lad like that. Courage in the interests of keeping your team in the game should surely be rewarded?


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#12564 - 12/12/00 12:01 PM Re: imperatrix
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tsuwm (tongue in cheek?) asked:
LBW?
loosely bowled wicket?
lusy's beer wallah??
loose bowels whelm?!
what?


Wrong thread really - it's a cricket term - Leg Before Wicket. Shanks will be able to give you all the stats on whoever has at any time in place playing for any team, been given out for it. He has the links, and he who has the links, rules.

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#12565 - 12/12/00 12:43 PM Re: cricket v. baseball
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In reply to:

Hurrah for someone else who doesn't know about cricket, which has to be the most boring
game in the world after baseball.
(says he, hastily digging himself a blast-proof shelter that is unasailable from all directions!


not to start up any kind of baseball vs. cricket controversy again (well I remember what happened the last time), but obviously you don't know baseball either, or you would have substituted 'dugout' for 'shelter'.


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#12566 - 12/12/00 01:35 PM Re: imperatrix
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>we should adopt the Celtic tradition of bestowing on her the accolade of
THE Jackie.

Since it appears unlikely that any of us can catch her, how about SWMBF (she who must be followed). Then we can award followships to the U-boats.

Goodness, what was in that coffee????

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#12567 - 12/13/00 04:22 AM Re: cricket v. baseball
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obviously you don't know baseball either, or you would have substituted 'dugout' for 'shelter'.
No doubt you are correct, tsuwm - I was harking back to the good old days of the Second World War, when we all enjoyed the comradeship engendered by close proximity in constructions of pressed-iron covered in garden soil which were a fool-proof method of avoiding the bombs rained down on London by that nasty Mr. Hitler.

As to a "knowledge" of baseball - or cricket, for that matter - it is confined to having watched games being played. Indeed, I have played cricket, but only under duress and never with enjoyment.
I watched baseball over a period of about two months at some of the American Airforce bases in Northamptonshire,m which were acclaimed by those around me as being of reasonably high standard. I will admit to finding them better fun than cricket - but only marginally, and there was no beer !


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#12568 - 12/13/00 11:33 AM Re: cricket v. baseball
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Rhub cricketed: Indeed, I have played cricket, but only under duress and never with enjoyment.

And if you'd watched yesterday's last day's play in the NZ vs The Yappies test match in South Africa, you'd know that the NZers weren't enjoying their cricket much, either ...

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#12569 - 12/13/00 11:39 AM Re: cricket v. baseball
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> and there was no beer !

beer with baseball is highly dangerous. now, beer and *softball...


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#12570 - 12/13/00 03:13 PM Re: imperatrix
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>>>how about SWMBF (she who must be followed).<<<

It's a good thing you included an explanation with this teD. When I first saw it my interpretation was Single White Male, Black Female. (swf, swm, etc being common abbreviations in personal adds in the newspaper.)


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#12571 - 12/18/00 08:54 AM Re: imperatrix
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swf, swm, etc being common abbreviations in personal adds in the newspaper.

And here I thought you were happily married. Does Mr Xara know?


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#12572 - 12/18/00 10:27 AM Re: imperatrix
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>>>And here I thought you were happily married. Does Mr Xara know? <<<

quite happily married, thank you. i used to read them occasionally just for the humour of it. people say some funny things in the personals.

colour me clueless, but i still haven't figured out what SWMBO means.


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#12573 - 12/18/00 10:35 AM Re: imperatrix
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SWMBO

...and as a fully-paid up member of this three ring circus you think the personals have some oddities, xara?!!

I think the phrase "She Who Must Be Obeyed" is an Arthur Daly-ism, from a popular 1970s(?) Brit TV show called Minder where Arthur is a 'dodgy geezer' who wheels and deals on the fringes of complete criminality but kow-tows to this wonderful unseen Mama Ex Machina.


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#12574 - 12/18/00 11:08 AM Re: imperatrix
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>>>...and as a fully-paid up member of this three ring circus you think the personals have some oddities, xara?!!<<<

that's why i said i used to read them. i've moved on to better things!

>>>Mama Ex Machina.<<<
seems as though i miss quite a bit not watching brit tv. i'd have to watch more old brit sitcoms that anything else to catch all the subtle humour that flies around this place. aah well...


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#12575 - 12/18/00 12:28 PM Re: imperatrix
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Maverick thought: I think the phrase "She Who Must Be Obeyed" is an Arthur Daly-ism, from a popular 1970s(?) Brit TV show called Minder where Arthur is a 'dodgy geezer' who wheels and deals on the fringes of complete criminality but kow-tows to this wonderful unseen Mama Ex Machina.

No, Arfur Daley used to refer to "'er indoors". SWMBO came from Rumpole of the Bailey a legal sitcom of the same period. Rumpole either referred to his wife as Mrs Rumpole, or "she who must be obeyed".



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#12576 - 12/19/00 04:19 AM SWMBO
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Hmmm...

CK says: SWMBO came from Rumpole of the Bailey a legal sitcom of the same period. Rumpole either referred to his wife as Mrs Rumpole, or "she who must be obeyed".

We've had this somewhere else, of course, if only I could find the reference, and as I noted, dear ol Lumpore (as the author John Mortimer is sometimes referred to in parts of South East Asia), got the reference himself from H Rider Haggard's classic late 19th century novel She, in which the 'she' in the title was short for She-who-must-be-obeyed, which is what her subjects called her.

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#12577 - 12/19/00 07:50 AM Re: SWMBO
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shanks suggests: dear ol Lumpore ... got the reference himself from H Rider Haggard's classic late 19th century novel She, in which the 'she' in the title was short for She-who-must-be-obeyed, which is what her subjects called her.

And he may well have gotten it from the same source as Professor Gay Robins (http://www2.cc.emory.edu/HART/directory.htm#robins) who claims that it was a title of The Women of the Palace, i.e., the Pharaoh's Mother and his Principal Wife (http://www.per-sekhmet.org/perankh/royal_wmn.html).


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#12578 - 12/20/00 04:26 AM Re: SWMBO
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And he may well have gotten it from the same source as Professor Gay Robins who claims that it was a title of The Women of the Palace, i.e., the Pharaoh's Mother and his Principal Wife.

Excellent! Thanks for that. The story goes back further and further. The Egyptians, of course, being a boot-strapping civilisation, I presume we can expect to find no precedents to their usage?


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