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#124908 03/11/04 06:56 PM
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You got exclusive ORs (XOR) and inclusive ORs (OR). A XOR B is true for A true or B true, but not for A and B true. A OR B is true for A true, B true or A and B true. I.e., A and B with the same truth value gives a false XOR but a true OR value. If neither A nor B is true then A XOR B and A OR B are both false.


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You got exclusive ORs (XOR) and inclusive ORs (OR).

Understood.

But are the "exclusive ORs" the same thing as "the explict exclusive ORs", which are really "the explicitly exclusive ORs"?

How "exclusive" does an "OR" have to be to be "explicit"? Or "explicitly exclusive"? Or vice versa.

Come to think of it, isn't "the exclusive OR" explicit enough without adding the word "explicit" [or the word "explicitly"]?

Just tinking with ya, Faldage.



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'Exclusive OR' is a noun phrase. The 'explicit' is modifying the whole phrase and not just 'exclusive'.


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The 'explicit' is modifying the whole phrase and not just 'exclusive'.

I'm probably out of my element here, but what's the difference between an "explicit exclusive OR" and an "exclusive OR"?

Is one a little more exclusive than the other?

Just tinking with ya.




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The common usage of the English language word 'or' is ambiguous. While it is normally taken to be exclusive, this is not always the case. By 'explicit exclusive OR' I simply mean that the interpretation that it be an inclusive OR is disallowed. It is no different than a regular exclusive OR in any way.

Sorry, I didn't read the white before I posted. We don't pay you to tink.


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It is no different than a regular exclusive OR in any way.

That pretty much clears it up. Thank you.

The reason you don't pay me to tink is because you do most of my best tinking for me.




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but is it worth a tinkers damn?


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but is it worth a tinker's damn?

To you and me, certainly not. But to a tinker, his dam is worth damn near everything.

A tinker without a dam is like a hockey player without a helmut. A few pricks can take all the fun out of the game.


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And then, there's caterwaul


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From the Middle English caterwawlen 'to yowl like a tomcat.' Cf. German Katzenjammer 'hangover; crapulence' from Katzen 'cats' + Jammer 'bitchiness, lamentation, misery'; though German Kater 'hangover' may be from either catarrh or from Kater 'tomcat'.


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