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I've stayed out of this one - my dear old late mum used to make Welsh rarebit with cheese and something else, definitely not beer, and it doesn't seem to be the same thing at all. It was made separately to the toast and was spooned on to the toast. I guess she had the recipe from my grandmother, who was English but from the Welsh marches ...
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>jumbo shrimp, which is now so common that nobody recognizes it as an oxymoron any more.
I'm gonna stick my neck out here. Conventional wisdom is that jumbo shrimp is an oxymoron, but I'm not convinced CW is correct in this case. Shrimp's an animal, and the word comes from (apparently) an OE word for to shrink up. So there's definitely a relationship to smallness, but I maintain that so long as there are different sizes of the animal you have to be able to make the distinction.
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Thanks wow, but cheese is something of a luxury item here, so I rarely buy it.
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cheese is something of a luxury item here...... poor soul - so you are forced to live on jumbo shrimp, then, Mr B? 
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"Right" said TEd. "but I maintain that so long as there are different sizes of the animal you have to be able to make the distinction
For many of us, a size up from shrimp is a prawn. Certainly, they're scientifically the same thing.
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are prawn a size up? or just an alternate word? mum alway called shrimp prawn, but "dublin prawn" are not jumbo shrimp!
local stores don't even use the words Jumbo shrimp anymore, but sell them by # per pound--(8 to pound, 6 to a pound) shrimp
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shanks:
>For many of us, a size up from shrimp is a prawn. Certainly, they're scientifically the same thing.
Perhaps. Perhaps not.
My dictionary says a shrimp is a. any of various . . . crustaceans of the suborder Natantia, many species of which are edible. b. Any of various crustaceans similar to the shrimp.
My dictionary further defines prawn as an edible crustacean of the genus Palaemonetes and related genera, closely related to and resembling the shrimps.
But my point was that jumbo shrimp should not be categorized as an oxymoron because it does not mean big little. But I'm not prawn to carrying on this thread :). Shall we (s)cuttle it, or do we have to ask Jazz and Shona?
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Hydromorons - certainly none of the shrimp I've eaten seemed very bright, but I guess it's hard to shine intellectually when you've been cooked.
The denizens of the Land of Oz (known in Zild as the West Island) used to have an expression, "raw prawn", to describe, I believe, idiots. Can anyone from Oz confirm or deny this? Or have you all just taken off to thrown another prawn on the barbie?
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In reply to:
The denizens of the Land of Oz (known in Zild as the West Island) used to have an expression, "raw prawn", to describe, I believe, idiots. Can anyone from Oz confirm or deny this? Or have you all just taken off to thrown another prawn on the barbie?
Yep, CapK, it relates to idiots, or more precisely to being naive or gullible. I've only ever heard it used as part of the expression "Don't come the raw prawn with me", meaning don't try to fool me.
And as you have hinted at in your post, and in a recent Fosters ad, we throw prawns on the barbie, not shrimps. In truth, I've never done either, but I've enjoyed the results.
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