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#102519 - 05/10/03 11:42 AM Re: double dactyls
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Faldage and tsuwm: Thank you both for your thorough and specific explanations of double-dactyl scanning. The English-language dictionaries I consulted all gave "oeuvre" two syllables (I hadn't looked it up beforehand). As for "Nowadays, we'd call it," I did hear the (secondary?) stress on "call." Both of these were open questions to me while I was composing.

Coffeebean and Zed: Thanks for your pleasant remarks.

Wofahulicodoc: I enjoyed your poem and agree with its sentiment.


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#102520 - 05/10/03 12:10 PM NI =W
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"NI3" is Webster's New International Dictionary, 3rd Edition.

in these parts, a.k.a. W3

Autre temps, autre moeurs. "Other times, other customs." Totally fabricated-on-the-spot rationalization why my way is better: why use a three-syllable word when two syllables will do?

By either name I've never liked that dictionary, except maybe to check spelling. I've never forgiven them for including "uninterested" as a synonym for "disinterested." Among other transgressions.
(Besides, who ya gonna believe - me or some strange dictionary?)


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#102521 - 05/10/03 12:31 PM Re: NI = W
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Totally fabricated-on-the-spot rationalization why my way is better: why use a three-syllable word when two syllables will do?

Well-thought-out online casuistry: why use three letters when two will do. regarding W3 trangressions: you have to understand their mission: to provide a description of "American" English. detractors read descriptive as permissive.

(I apologize if I was seeming to correct your usage of NI3; I've just been using W3 here and wanted to provide some continuity.)


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#102522 - 05/10/03 01:55 PM Re: NI = W
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Yes, I took your usage to be descriptive rather than prescriptive ;-)

I know their mission; I just consider it a sad abrogation of responsibility. I guess that tells me which side of the fence I sit on !

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#102523 - 05/10/03 02:03 PM Re: double dactyls
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I have difficulty saying 'oeuvre' as one sylLAble.. (Ahem.) You are too sensitive.


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#102524 - 05/10/03 02:27 PM Re: double dactyls
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I have difficulty saying "oeuvre" at all!


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#102525 - 05/10/03 03:26 PM Re: double dactyls
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can I get some eggs, please?

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#102526 - 05/10/03 04:48 PM Re: double dactyls
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some eggs, please

I'll work on it.


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#102527 - 05/10/03 07:15 PM Re: No diatribes allowed
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Registered: 01/18/01
Posts: 1156
OK, sorry to whomever I used to "reply" to but this thread has veered away from the original purpsose...

Dag and I wrote a nice one after working hard to come up with a double dactyl name. Here ya go:

Waka-tow, waka-tow,
Jaco Pastorius
Bass virtuoso, was
Second to none.
He was convinced of his
Invincibility
Taunted a bully, his
Short life was done.

So there! I almost never contribute to these poetry things!


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#102528 - 05/11/03 09:59 AM Re: Jeez… OK
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Orthodox Shmorthodox
Judas Iscariot
bad-mouthed by many
for his perceived crime

Had he not done it then
incontravertibly
Christian religion would
just be small time.


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